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Facts don't lie, I'll let the numbers speak for themselves.

Posted by: KaiGee on Oct 07, 03:58 in response to RotoHockey2013Main Port's post Your First Sentence indicates that 719 M/S are Trending...

I'm using the pricing data from 9/28 and 10/5.  My prices don't always exactly match the prices lited on the HSX graphs but are within a few cents.  With me right now, I only have records for the 1129 MST that have been on the market for 90+ days.

Of the 1129 MST, 553 had more up days that down, 130 had equal up & down, and 446 had more down than up.

Of the 1129 MST, 649 went up in price, 27 had no change, and 453 went down.

Of the 553 with more up days than down, 493 went up in price, 8 had no change, and 52 went down.

Of the 130 with equal up and down days, 70 went up in price, 7 had no change, and 53 went down.

Of the 446 with more down days than up, 86 went up in price, 12 had no change, and 348 went down.

The net change of the 553 is 239.59.  The net change of the 130 is 12.79.  The net change of the 446 is -106.17.

I can provide the data if you need it.  I can reevaluate the same calculations with whatever start and end dates you want.  The simple fact is that this is no where near 92%.

Are There Times When Everything Just Seems To Drop? MitchC Oct 06, 06:20

Try employing the ROTO SHORT Strategy. <See INSIDE>. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 06, 08:07

... MitchC Oct 06, 11:19

This is completely false and misleading. Stop this now. KaiGee Oct 06, 14:33

Not False. Not Misleading. Your Stats are Misleading as they do not take Day-Trading & RESET Trading into Account. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 06, 15:21

You state that 92-96% of MST trend downward. KaiGee Oct 06, 16:22

Please see the (AKIRA) & (COLET) Examples for an Explanation. <SEE INSIDE>. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 06, 17:03

You assume too much about what my data shows. KaiGee Oct 07, 00:28

Your First Sentence indicates that 719 M/S are Trending UPWARDS. That's Ridiculous. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 07, 01:01

Facts don't lie, I'll let the numbers speak for themselves. KaiGee Oct 07, 03:58

Those Stats are COMPLETELY USELESS. Here's why. <INSIDE>. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 07, 05:52

If those Stats were Relevant & Meaningful, then a Port with 94% M/S Held SHORT would have Catastrophic Losses. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 07, 10:02

Any Claim that 58% of M/S Trend UPWARDS (719/1235) is Ridiculous. Analysis shows 4% to 8%. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 07, 10:07

So, of the 865 MST on available since Oct 8, 2015, how many would you say have gone down in price? {nm} KaiGee Oct 08, 07:24

(CLEOP) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:22

(BILL3) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:22

I doubt that they will ever make this movie. {nm} RazorHawk Oct 14, 16:38

(CYEFM) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:23

(CLUE) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:23

(COLOS) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:23

(FVOYG) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:24

(HARBN) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:24

(IDOLE) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:24

(JUNGC) is UP from October 2015 - and is TRENDING DOWNWARD. Check out its Chart. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:25

I wonder how TROCK is going to find time to make all of these movies that he is attached to. {nm} RazorHawk Oct 14, 16:40

(FRID4) (LOBO) (SUMIT) (MNDRK) (MCR ON) (MSAIG) (MK3) (CHESL) (PERYM) (SPWN2) (FALGY) {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:27

ALL UP from October 2015 - ALL TRENDING DOWNWARD. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:27

Can do this all day long - Won't make a Difference - You apparently don't Understand the Concept of TRENDING DOWNWARD. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:29

It has Absolutely Nothing to do with whether they are UP or DOWN from October 2015. It has to do with TRENDING. {nm} RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 08, 21:30

OK, then explain this. KaiGee Oct 09, 13:26

What a Horrible Tool for Decision-Making. <INSIDE>. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 10, 00:38

Roto, if "M/S shoot UPWARDS on RESET-TRADING & Day-Trading" then why are you advising players to hold them short? DTravel Oct 10, 14:38

He runs left. He runs right. He is confused. {nm} RazorHawk Oct 10, 16:06

Confused all the way to +2.223 BILLION for 2016 as of October 05, 2016 - 2nd only to Oleg Max. Captain Obvious Oct 10, 16:33

No one is denying that you are a good, probably even great, HSX player - just that your success comes down to this simple strategy srrichardson Oct 12, 04:06

What the ROTO SHORT Strategy dictates, doesn't Suggest & Key Fundamental Difference with 'Slow Bleeders'. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 12, 10:21

I say po-tay-to, you say po-tah-to (drops the mike and walks into the sunset) {nm} srrichardson Oct 13, 04:01

He runs up the mountain. He runs down the valley. He cannot find water. {nm} RazorHawk Oct 13, 08:54

STALKER. RotoHockey2013Main Port Oct 13, 10:08

He calls UPS. He calls Fed-Ex. No one touches his package. {nm} RazorHawk Oct 13, 10:17

CYBER-STALKER. Captain Obvious Oct 13, 11:23

He spams this board. He spams that board. He is lonely. {nm} RazorHawk Oct 13, 12:49

CYBER-STALKER. Captain Obvious Oct 13, 18:17

This example is you admitting you are being misleading. You admit all your profits here are from day trading, not from holding short. {nm} DTravel Oct 08, 11:11

Yes. Misleading and False. (Sorry for delay responding, haven't had time until today.) DTravel Oct 08, 11:10

The problem is that it is too simple for something as complex as HSX srrichardson Oct 10, 07:06

My point exactly. Thank you. {nm} KaiGee Oct 11, 10:26

That strategy only works great if you're online 24/7 to flip when news hit {nm} slappydavid Oct 06, 17:24

This has been asserted before and its wrong, too. ndmaster Oct 06, 21:10

Sure, I guess it can make you more money than it loses you money, so I guess it kinda works slappydavid Oct 08, 06:41

It still works because it is true. Most MST trend downwards. {nm} ndmaster Oct 08, 20:53

Here's a stat for you. I have 1100 stocks shorted and have lost 87% YTD...on purpose BTW {nm} up_up_and_away Oct 08, 03:32

But, but...Ridiculous...my gut...stats and facts are for losers /s BTW, thank you. {nm} KaiGee Oct 08, 06:09

Yes {nm} DTravel Oct 06, 12:18

Yes, this is one of the seasons where things tend to flatline or drop. It seems to happen after summer and Christmas are done. {nm} ndmaster Oct 06, 13:10

Sept is a often the toughest month. Summer traders are selling off, no big movies, etc. If your Star Bonds aren't moving the way you think, JDolphin Oct 06, 13:13

... MitchC Oct 06, 17:49





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