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"cinema" is more than studio filmmaking. I'd stack up my top 10 this year and last against any other year except 1974

Posted by: Moviesnob on Jul 06, 11:19 in response to slipping jimmy's post just as a single data point analysis, compare the top 25...

Chinatown, Conversation, Godfather 2. Cant beat that top 3 ever.Ā 

Dustin Hoffman: Cinema is 'worst' it has been in 50 years, but television is the best that's it ever been Peterlee Jul 06, 09:13

these people saying things like "worst" or "impossible" are getting tiresome. inside out, mad max, been a good year islander Jul 06, 09:37

people are just lazy. Good movies are always out there, you just have to look for them. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 09:52

Yeah, that Hoffman guy is a lazy tool. {nm} goodvibe61 Jul 06, 09:54

the link isnt accurate, but he's likely coming from a place where crappy movies he wants made arent getting made {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:09

I made huge mistake by posting the wrong link. I am very very sorry. The correct link is in here Peterlee Jul 06, 17:39

No, just another cranky old man that thinks everything was better in the good old days. {nm} Antibody Jul 06, 10:51

qualitatively, it's undeniable slipping jimmy Jul 06, 10:56

There are lots of schlocky westerns, swords and sandals, horror films back then too. They're rarely seen on TV Antibody Jul 06, 11:04

just as a single data point analysis, compare the top 25 films of 1967 (the year of The Graduate) with 2007 (the year of . . . Transformers) slipping jimmy Jul 06, 11:16

"cinema" is more than studio filmmaking. I'd stack up my top 10 this year and last against any other year except 1974 Moviesnob Jul 06, 11:19

yes, you can always find outliers in any year that are the exception to the rule. the difference is quality (or at least a general slipping jimmy Jul 06, 11:23

but I'm saying the quality this year is as good as any other year. If you dont think that, you aren't watching enough movies. Moviesnob Jul 06, 11:28

not just the money in TV but also the (relative) creative control slipping jimmy Jul 06, 11:34

IMO that's a reflection of modern moviegoing taste, and not on the overall quality of cinema. {nm} Antibody Jul 06, 12:23

But, for the most part, those shlocky flicks are CITIZEN KANE, compared to the crap now. It's not even close. {nm} goodvibe61 Jul 06, 15:37

That's just your opinion. Quality is subjective. {nm} Antibody Jul 06, 16:14

I made huge mistake by posting the wrong link. I am very very sorry. The correct link is in here Peterlee Jul 06, 17:40

sure, there have always been good movies, even when Hollywood has been at its worst. that's no excuse for not trying to make the other 90% slipping jimmy Jul 06, 10:07

I quote Bad Santa. "Well, they all cant be winners, can they?" Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:13

50 years ago , hollywood made beast of yucca flats and manos hand of fate. they havent been trying to make the 90% better since ever {nm} islander Jul 06, 10:15

actually, briefly, at the end of the studio system they did slipping jimmy Jul 06, 10:18

Movies come out every week. You list 2 good movies over the whole year, and say "it's been a good year" lol. goodvibe61 Jul 06, 09:53

theres been good and bad films every year since the invention of film and i doubt the ratio is any better or worse now than its ever been {nm} islander Jul 06, 10:07

i'd wager that the ratio is worse now. The technology to make a movie is so much more affordable now than ever. {nm} adrenalin112 Jul 06, 12:34

i'd agree that the ratio is worse. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 12:47

good movies come out EVERY week. you just have to look for them. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:10

Good movies on release schedule for July (I count 9 over the next 3 weeks): Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:18

4 weeks, sorry {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:25

I agree 100%. People are so reactionary. {nm} masonacj Jul 06, 10:12

People always talk about extremes, it's the only way to get attention in a noisy world. RogerMore Jul 06, 10:15

exactly! it says more about you that what you are commenting on. Things are never that simple. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:20

I'd care. :) {nm} second luke Jul 06, 11:07

Solliciting for a part in game of thrones or true detective3 ? {nm} JMT-NL Jul 06, 14:02

He wants Luck to be uncancelled. {nm} socby19 Jul 06, 16:03

who wouldn't? {nm} slipping jimmy Jul 06, 16:17

PETA. {nm} socby19 Jul 06, 16:27





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