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not just the money in TV but also the (relative) creative control

Posted by: slipping jimmy (a.k.a mickpix) on Jul 06, 11:34 in response to Moviesnob's post but I'm saying the quality this year is as good as any...

you might have to deal with network, studio, etc. notes more than you want to but you also have the security in knowing that basically what you write will be shot and aired next week X 13, or 22 weeks in a season

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on a feature . . . good luck with it ever seeing the light of day and in any form resembling what your draft might have been

Dustin Hoffman: Cinema is 'worst' it has been in 50 years, but television is the best that's it ever been Peterlee Jul 06, 09:13

these people saying things like "worst" or "impossible" are getting tiresome. inside out, mad max, been a good year islander Jul 06, 09:37

people are just lazy. Good movies are always out there, you just have to look for them. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 09:52

Yeah, that Hoffman guy is a lazy tool. {nm} goodvibe61 Jul 06, 09:54

the link isnt accurate, but he's likely coming from a place where crappy movies he wants made arent getting made {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:09

I made huge mistake by posting the wrong link. I am very very sorry. The correct link is in here Peterlee Jul 06, 17:39

No, just another cranky old man that thinks everything was better in the good old days. {nm} Antibody Jul 06, 10:51

qualitatively, it's undeniable slipping jimmy Jul 06, 10:56

There are lots of schlocky westerns, swords and sandals, horror films back then too. They're rarely seen on TV Antibody Jul 06, 11:04

just as a single data point analysis, compare the top 25 films of 1967 (the year of The Graduate) with 2007 (the year of . . . Transformers) slipping jimmy Jul 06, 11:16

"cinema" is more than studio filmmaking. I'd stack up my top 10 this year and last against any other year except 1974 Moviesnob Jul 06, 11:19

yes, you can always find outliers in any year that are the exception to the rule. the difference is quality (or at least a general slipping jimmy Jul 06, 11:23

but I'm saying the quality this year is as good as any other year. If you dont think that, you aren't watching enough movies. Moviesnob Jul 06, 11:28

not just the money in TV but also the (relative) creative control slipping jimmy Jul 06, 11:34

IMO that's a reflection of modern moviegoing taste, and not on the overall quality of cinema. {nm} Antibody Jul 06, 12:23

But, for the most part, those shlocky flicks are CITIZEN KANE, compared to the crap now. It's not even close. {nm} goodvibe61 Jul 06, 15:37

That's just your opinion. Quality is subjective. {nm} Antibody Jul 06, 16:14

I made huge mistake by posting the wrong link. I am very very sorry. The correct link is in here Peterlee Jul 06, 17:40

sure, there have always been good movies, even when Hollywood has been at its worst. that's no excuse for not trying to make the other 90% slipping jimmy Jul 06, 10:07

I quote Bad Santa. "Well, they all cant be winners, can they?" Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:13

50 years ago , hollywood made beast of yucca flats and manos hand of fate. they havent been trying to make the 90% better since ever {nm} islander Jul 06, 10:15

actually, briefly, at the end of the studio system they did slipping jimmy Jul 06, 10:18

Movies come out every week. You list 2 good movies over the whole year, and say "it's been a good year" lol. goodvibe61 Jul 06, 09:53

theres been good and bad films every year since the invention of film and i doubt the ratio is any better or worse now than its ever been {nm} islander Jul 06, 10:07

i'd wager that the ratio is worse now. The technology to make a movie is so much more affordable now than ever. {nm} adrenalin112 Jul 06, 12:34

i'd agree that the ratio is worse. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 12:47

good movies come out EVERY week. you just have to look for them. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:10

Good movies on release schedule for July (I count 9 over the next 3 weeks): Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:18

4 weeks, sorry {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:25

I agree 100%. People are so reactionary. {nm} masonacj Jul 06, 10:12

People always talk about extremes, it's the only way to get attention in a noisy world. RogerMore Jul 06, 10:15

exactly! it says more about you that what you are commenting on. Things are never that simple. {nm} Moviesnob Jul 06, 10:20

I'd care. :) {nm} second luke Jul 06, 11:07

Solliciting for a part in game of thrones or true detective3 ? {nm} JMT-NL Jul 06, 14:02

He wants Luck to be uncancelled. {nm} socby19 Jul 06, 16:03

who wouldn't? {nm} slipping jimmy Jul 06, 16:17

PETA. {nm} socby19 Jul 06, 16:27





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