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CelebStock and StarBonds

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Posted by: RHAWK (a.k.a RazorHawk) on Apr 26, 20:50 in response to RogerMore's post Like every other factor in making Starbond investments,...

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The Post Adjust Bond Show is exactly what you describe "a snapshot taken at a particular time" of what the next starbond adjust will likely be.  It has never been advertised as anything else than that and my response to islander was not suggesting to anybody what tool to use.  islander is a friend of mine and my response was to him about the answer he posted.


I was reminding him of the main reason that I never use droi.  The only way droi is truely useful (in my opinion) is that if you did the calculation for every security listed at HSX, at the same time, and compared the droi of all the securites listed on the exchange, and then recalculated the droi for every security listed on the exchange everytime there is a release date change, a price movement, an adjust or a reset, because all of those factors would change the droi.


HSX is fun when I am putting cash in my port.  A 10 point adjust this Monday means more to me than a 50 point adjust that adjusts in five weeks.  On Tuesday, I will be 10 points richer, and then I can invest in that five week away adjust and see how much of those 50 points that I can still get my hands on, and put more cash into my port.  That is alot of fun to me.  The bigger my port gets, the farther out I can invest.  It is like a snowball growing bigger as it rolls down a hill.  I have this weekend's openers and attached starbonds covered then I can start investing in next weeks. then the week after that one.  When I get the rest of the current month invested then I can start looking into the future for super deal starbond adjusts and moviestocks.


droi followers like to make spreadsheets and calculate formulas and (in my opinion) do not make as much money, or have as much fun as possible, because they miss spur of the moment opportunites, they don't take as many chances and have more waves of good days and bad days because they hold stocks based on what their mathmatical formula tells them that a stock will eventually do, instead of paying attention to what it is doing right now.


there are many different tools and strategies that are available to use while playing HSX and different traders have different results.  There is not one master tool or strategy that fits all.  People who play casually from work need different tools and strategies from people who are retired and at their home computer all day.  My brother lives and plays HSX from Singapore where reset is at lunchtime and where all the daily news items are posted while he is asleep.  I play news, he does reset trading... we both do weekend openers.


 

I don't make posts on the HSX Boards (or on The HSX Dude) that tell players which way they should trade or which strategy is superior to all others.  I share the information that I have learned over time.  If somebody asks what reset trading is, I will tell them.  If somebody asks what droi is, I will tell them.  If somebody is interested in my experiences with different strategies or which ones have worked for me, I will share that information too.  Something that works for me doesn't mean that it will automatically work for somebody else.  And something that doesn't work for me doesn't mean that it won't work for somebody else.


I like helping people to have fun at HSX.  Players are happy when they are making money.  Each player is going to have to go thru the learning process and find which particular tools are helpful for their situation and which strategies work best for them.

 

 

I found an interesting example of why context is needed wth respect to the Post Adjust Bond Show, with respect to dROI.... Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 26, 12:46

bond1=best islander Apr 26, 12:48

perfect example of the flaw with droi RazorHawk Apr 26, 15:21

Like every other factor in making Starbond investments, dROI is a tool that can be used and/or ignored by traders as appropriate. RogerMore Apr 26, 17:48

This was not meant as a criticism of your hard work. Only to point out context necessary to make good use of it. mrbinns Apr 26, 20:15

um... (don't know what to put here ~ again) RHAWK Apr 26, 21:48

Um..How can we search for Fembot's thoughts on trading? {nm} dioneta Apr 27, 14:53

um... RHAWK Apr 26, 20:50

I suppose it depends what your definition of fun is. RogerMore Apr 26, 23:07

"If It Makes You Happy.... RHAWK Apr 27, 09:04

half of my message is missing :( {nm} RHAWK Apr 27, 09:05

Hmmm... if you don't day-trade and you don't use dROI, what Starbond tool do you use? RogerMore Apr 27, 10:09

he says they're attached to the same movie, so surely they adjust over the same period {nm} Jane_Citizen Apr 27, 00:35

um... RHAWK Apr 27, 08:20

to wit: Jane_Citizen Apr 28, 19:08

No {nm} RHAWK Apr 29, 09:47

Yes, for the purposes of comparing the three examples it is. {nm} Jane_Citizen Apr 30, 17:34

no it isn't... RHAWK Apr 30, 20:18

Answers...(no fair peeking until you have an answer written down) Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 26, 12:52

Fantastic debate between some of the heavy hitters! srrichardson Apr 26, 23:07

In my experience, actual dROI (rather than calculated dROI) is larger for movies that have a higher next adjust over a span of 3 days. PRodQuanta Apr 27, 11:08

Implying that I actually use a mix of both investment strategies and it works great. Thanks to both of you. {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 27, 11:10

Heh - I thought I knew what you meant until I read your IM. {nm} RogerMore Apr 27, 13:28

I am not sure what you mean because your terminology is off....BUT Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 27, 20:33

I'm assuming dROI is daily Return On Investment (this very well could be wrong, I haven't checked). My explanation is inside PRodQuanta Apr 28, 09:13

This excludes any bounce phenomena {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 28, 09:31

This is known as the Bounce. It's something that mrbinns (in particular) does very well, and I assume it's what Razorhawk does also. RogerMore Apr 28, 09:39

(Oh actually, it's not the Bounce - but I think my IM still has it) {nm} RogerMore Apr 28, 09:41

Yes, I believe you have the gist. Playing the players/the bounce is somewhat different. It boils down to dROI ~ 1.5ROI in first ~1.5 days. {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 28, 10:28

I'd short all 3. If they become popular, you can sell at the estimated delist early, otherwise, you will at least cover the 2%, likely more {nm} arf Apr 28, 22:41





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