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Posted by: RHAWK (a.k.a RazorHawk) on Apr 27, 08:20 in response to Jane_Citizen's post he says they're attached to the same movie, so surely...

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Thank you for your reply and feel free to join any conversation that is on the HSX Boards, I just do not understand the purpose of your post.

 

mrbinns did not give a duration.  He stated that all starbonds were attached to the movie.  Then he asked which was the best investment.  That is not enough information.

 

If you are asking which starbond is the better investment, a duration is needed.  It doesn't matter that they are attached to the same movie, droi needs a duration (how far away is the adjust).

 

If I get to choose between a 19 point adjust, a 12 point adjust and a 5 point adjust... and they adjust tomorrow, then I would choose 19 points as the winner.  This is the choice that islander posted.  If they are adjusting a year from now, well I dont think I (or islander ~ I taught him better) would invest in any of them at this time, because I do not want to tie up a large amount of money for a 19 point adjust when I could spread that same money over 10 adjusts that just move 2 points each and make the same profit and possibly make it even faster. 

 

AFRAM was invested long on SLJAC predicting that Avengers will make $250 which would add around +50 to his TAG in five weeks at adjust.  Last Friday morning there was a good indication to me that Think Like A Man was going to be a hit.  So AFRAM dumped all its shares of SLJAC (and a few other stocks) and invested fully in Think Like A Man moviestock, OW, calls/puts. 

Over the course of the weekend, AFRAM made 1.4mill for the moviestock adjust, and 1.3mill for the OW, and more money from the call/puts.  Over the same course of time, SLJAC stayed at the same price for the whole weekend (actually he went down a point).

On Monday after cashouts, AFRAM reinvested in SLJAC without any loss of profit potential and 3mill richer.

Again, there was no way to do droi for Think Like A Man.  I had a current price, a duration, but no definitive adjust amount.  How do I know (based on droi) whether SLJAC is a better investment vs Think Like A Man opening weekend?  SLJAC does have a droi rating but Think Like A Man doesn't.

How do you droi an IPO that has no release date?  You only have current price and are missing two pieces of the formula.  How do you droi starbonds listed on The Bucket List who dont have a duration?  Again, how do you droi the starbonds attached to Men In Black 3 (which could delist at 250 or 125)?

 

The other two main flaws of droi are fishbowling and lag.

 

 

I found an interesting example of why context is needed wth respect to the Post Adjust Bond Show, with respect to dROI.... Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 26, 12:46

bond1=best islander Apr 26, 12:48

perfect example of the flaw with droi RazorHawk Apr 26, 15:21

Like every other factor in making Starbond investments, dROI is a tool that can be used and/or ignored by traders as appropriate. RogerMore Apr 26, 17:48

This was not meant as a criticism of your hard work. Only to point out context necessary to make good use of it. mrbinns Apr 26, 20:15

um... (don't know what to put here ~ again) RHAWK Apr 26, 21:48

Um..How can we search for Fembot's thoughts on trading? {nm} dioneta Apr 27, 14:53

um... RHAWK Apr 26, 20:50

I suppose it depends what your definition of fun is. RogerMore Apr 26, 23:07

"If It Makes You Happy.... RHAWK Apr 27, 09:04

half of my message is missing :( {nm} RHAWK Apr 27, 09:05

Hmmm... if you don't day-trade and you don't use dROI, what Starbond tool do you use? RogerMore Apr 27, 10:09

he says they're attached to the same movie, so surely they adjust over the same period {nm} Jane_Citizen Apr 27, 00:35

um... RHAWK Apr 27, 08:20

to wit: Jane_Citizen Apr 28, 19:08

No {nm} RHAWK Apr 29, 09:47

Yes, for the purposes of comparing the three examples it is. {nm} Jane_Citizen Apr 30, 17:34

no it isn't... RHAWK Apr 30, 20:18

Answers...(no fair peeking until you have an answer written down) Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 26, 12:52

Fantastic debate between some of the heavy hitters! srrichardson Apr 26, 23:07

In my experience, actual dROI (rather than calculated dROI) is larger for movies that have a higher next adjust over a span of 3 days. PRodQuanta Apr 27, 11:08

Implying that I actually use a mix of both investment strategies and it works great. Thanks to both of you. {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 27, 11:10

Heh - I thought I knew what you meant until I read your IM. {nm} RogerMore Apr 27, 13:28

I am not sure what you mean because your terminology is off....BUT Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 27, 20:33

I'm assuming dROI is daily Return On Investment (this very well could be wrong, I haven't checked). My explanation is inside PRodQuanta Apr 28, 09:13

This excludes any bounce phenomena {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 28, 09:31

This is known as the Bounce. It's something that mrbinns (in particular) does very well, and I assume it's what Razorhawk does also. RogerMore Apr 28, 09:39

(Oh actually, it's not the Bounce - but I think my IM still has it) {nm} RogerMore Apr 28, 09:41

Yes, I believe you have the gist. Playing the players/the bounce is somewhat different. It boils down to dROI ~ 1.5ROI in first ~1.5 days. {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 28, 10:28

I'd short all 3. If they become popular, you can sell at the estimated delist early, otherwise, you will at least cover the 2%, likely more {nm} arf Apr 28, 22:41





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