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There's no way he could lose! A superbly crafted period piece with a gifted cast and a superb screenplay. Oh... wait...

Posted by: second gary (a.k.a 80181597) on Mar 19, 11:46 in response to KalElFan's post This strikes me as quite possibly Ben's Best Director...

... those kinds of films do lose from time to time.

But BAFFL was snubbed for "Argo"!  That ought to be enough for the other nominees to resign, or refuse their nominations.

http://www.deadline.com/2013/03/argos-ben-affleck-at-center-of-warner-bros-deal-for-nathaniel-philbrick-book-bunker-hill/ {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 10:14

This strikes me as quite possibly Ben's Best Director win. Should it be called Bunker Hill or The Battle of Bunker Hill? {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 10:17

If it even gets made. Films about the Revolution War don't do well. {nm} Antibody Mar 19, 10:24

The Patriot comes to mind with $100M+. With Ben from Boston directing and no doubt a stellar cast, it'll get made. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 10:41

Budget: $110,000,000. It lost money. {nm} Antibody Mar 19, 10:55

In Hollybeancounterland, not in Our World. It grossed $113.3M domestic, plus $102M overseas, plus aftermarket. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 11:12

About half of that goes to the theater chain, more overseas. The marketing budget can double the production cost. {nm} Antibody Mar 19, 11:16

Whoops, you beat me to the punch. It isn't just "hollywood accounting" that makes films fall in teh red. {nm} skamanfu Mar 19, 11:18

No, a large majority of domestic gross goes to the studio in the early weeks, only sliding to half later. KalElFan Mar 19, 11:32

The rule of thumb is domestic gross > production budget = profit. Circa 2000, Overseas, DVD/VHS, aftermarket covers P&A+. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 11:35

Even going by your rule, it at best broke even at less than 3%. {nm} Antibody Mar 19, 11:39

It broke even by 2001. Since then, more airings, sales, Blu-ray, extended cut Blu-Ray, yada yada and ka-ching for 95 years. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 11:59

$110M doesn't include the P&A spend. Plus, theaters take a cut (on a sliding scale after each week). {nm} skamanfu Mar 19, 11:17

Has Hollywood made another feature about the Revolutionary War since in the last 12 years? {nm} Antibody Mar 19, 11:20

Maybe not, but before Lincoln did $180M+ domestic, had a civil war movie broken 100M+ domestic since GWTW adjusted? {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 12:02

Cold Mountain was close enough at 95. It's an arbitrary cut off. Budget matters. {nm} Antibody Mar 19, 12:17

He did Argo for $44.5M. Lincoln cost $65M. The Battle here is for a Hill. No tanks, no jets. I say $75-90M budget max. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 12:44

Lincoln, plus the 1776 cinematic drought, fresh Bunker Hill angle, and Affleck should make this a winner for Warners. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 12:05

There's no way he could lose! A superbly crafted period piece with a gifted cast and a superb screenplay. Oh... wait... second gary Mar 19, 11:46

Yep, but that Argo fiasco is what may help him personally, as well as the movie, next time. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 12:01

This won't be his next movie. He may win his make-up Oscar by then. {nm} Antibody Mar 19, 12:06

Checking his Starbond page, only Live By Night strikes me as Oscar potential. From the author of BP winner Mystic River. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 12:30

He'll win for a good not great movie inferior to Argo in about 15 years ala Scorsese {nm} stevie1der328 Mar 19, 12:59

Nominating other directors is not a fiasco. It's "nominating other directors." Winning best picture on account of a perceived fiasco... second gary Mar 19, 12:41

Well everybody's got an opinion, eh? :-) I still think Saving Private Ryan losing BP was an outrage. {nm} KalElFan Mar 19, 12:49

Agreed on "Saving Private Ryan," although I think "Shakespeare in Love" was not unworthy. {nm} second gary Mar 19, 13:24





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