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Is there any chance it *doesn't* get delayed? I can't remember how many dates Avatar had {nm}

Posted by: OdysseusG on May 29, 06:24 in response to -JPV-'s post Against Avatar 2???

THR: Will Soft 'Solo' Box Office Cause Disney to Rethink 'Star Wars' Strategy? tomcat90 May 28, 11:44

if it means firing JJ, i'm all for it {nm} slipping jimmy May 28, 11:52

JJ has not created a dud for the franchise so you're out of touch once again :) {nm} doitdoitdoitnow May 28, 13:15

Definitely. Kathleen Kennedy is on the chopping block along with others.. I think JJ is safe. {nm} VictorY May 28, 11:54

One failure won't be enough, after 3 massive successes {nm} numbersix_99 May 28, 11:59

International says otherwise.. "Solo" bombed overseas.. That's unaccpetable for a SW property. -- Last Jedi got crushed by AVNG3 and BPNT {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:03

TLJ still made a HUGE profit so when it comes to numbers Solo is the only misstep {nm} numbersix_99 May 28, 12:29

And ST: INTO DARKNESS made money also.. Means nothing when studio feels changes need to be made. {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:36

Talk to Hasbro and other vendors and retailers their discounts tell a different story. The beancounter know what's sell & what's not. {nm} Baron_Darcon2017 May 28, 17:44

I think STAR9 box office will be the determining factor. {nm} Randy May 28, 11:54

I don't think Disney has any patients left.. They need to get STAR9 right, the same happened with the Star Trek franchise after INTO DARNESS {nm} VictorY May 28, 11:56

yes, JJ ruined the Star Trek reboot and he's doing the same to Star Wars {nm} slipping jimmy May 28, 12:03

fire the person that hired JJ... twice! {nm} RazorHawk May 28, 12:03

the franchise was doing soooo well after nemesis... {nm} islndr May 28, 12:19

She's made Disney $4.4 billion from 3 movies, so i think Disney will wait until STAR9 before making that decision . {nm} Randy May 28, 12:03

Star Wars Mercandise sales plunged with LJEDI.. Disney didn't spend Billions to get SW just to make marginal profits. {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:06

Disney purchased Lucasfilm for $4 billion, So I'm sure Disney has already made a profit. {nm} Randy May 28, 12:23

SW RebellionFandom are already calling .......SW Episode IX Chapter 11 .... aka. SW Bankruptcy....All the new characters are not popular {nm} Baron_Darcon2017 May 28, 12:13

We have to face the truth folks.. "Solo" is the first flop in the history of the SW franchise.. People will get fired. {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:01

But just like at Warner, probably not the right people. {nm} -JPV- May 28, 12:06

Very true. {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:07

2nd. (The Clone Wars animated film) {nm} islndr May 28, 12:17

(actually i take that back. no evidence solo is a flop at this point. disappointment perhaps. what if it has legs?) {nm} islndr May 28, 12:19

Doubtful.. It only made 65 million total overseas.. That's close to "Lone Ranger," territory (shivers). {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:24

Even great legs would not get it up to $250M IMO {nm} RogerMore May 28, 12:25

I agree. I'm thinking Justice League territory.. maybe around 180-195 million domestic. {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:38

IDK, with weaker competition for the next few weeks, I think it'll get above $200M. {nm} -JPV- May 28, 12:45

only got a mid 60's def recommend which for most films is good, but its pacing behind the other three Disney SW flicks {nm} Moviesnob May 28, 12:50

In an attempt to bring the conversation back to the facts, lets look at the actual quote from Disney Moviesnob May 28, 12:32

and here's a quote who from someone who is looking at the actual exit polls on why people went to the movie Moviesnob May 28, 12:34

should have pushed it to December really {nm} slipping jimmy May 28, 12:49

It was shocking to a lot of people when they didn't. I think a lot of people in Disney wanted to, but from their perspective Moviesnob May 28, 12:53

SO do you think this means the earliest slot SWAR3 would get is December 2020? {nm} tomcat90 May 28, 13:17

That's a really interesting idea {nm} Moviesnob May 28, 13:31

Against Avatar 2??? {nm} -JPV- May 28, 13:41

Is there any chance it *doesn't* get delayed? I can't remember how many dates Avatar had OdysseusG May 29, 06:24

Wont Avatar 2 be a Disney project after the merger ? either way that's a bad idea to be released against. {nm} Randy May 28, 13:45

I'm actually not counting Comcast out anymore. They could own fox. {nm} Moviesnob May 28, 13:49

Yes, I forgot about AVAT2, but they can't release it within 6 months on either side of STAR9 given the fatigue, so when else? {nm} tomcat90 May 28, 13:52

Memorial Day didn't make sense for this. If this was the script they wanted, it doesn't amount to a holiday release. leo21 May 28, 18:26

I think this was Disney's first step to see if 2 movies a year would work. {nm} Randy May 28, 13:38

Force Awakens was supposed to open in the same traditional SW spot in 2015. that delay threw off all the schedules going forward {nm} slipping jimmy May 28, 13:42

Wow i had idea about that. {nm} Randy May 28, 13:58

no {nm} Randy May 28, 13:59

Oh my God, they keep hiding their heads in their butts... {nm} Filmstardust May 28, 19:06

Maverl has shown frequency isn't the problem. MCU films do well even in short windows off one another. {nm} VictorY May 28, 12:41

Because its all one narrative. Disney's Star Wars movies started in the middle and the spinoffs assume you've seen the early films Moviesnob May 28, 12:48

would there also be hesitation to fire Kennedy because it would mean losing her to one of the competition? {nm} tealfan May 28, 13:34

also, I don't know what more she could have done... tealfan May 28, 13:38

She should have listen a little bit more to the fans, just like Marvel does. {nm} Filmstardust May 28, 19:07

It's also the flip side...who do you get to replace her? Moviesnob May 28, 13:50

Exactly, those are the reasons I don't see Disney firing her, besides the fact she's made them billions. {nm} Randy May 28, 14:04

Solo isn't the first strike -- Rogue One had reshoot problems. Hiring/firing Colin Treverrow for Ep. IX. The break could be a good reset slipping jimmy May 28, 14:10

Yep. There are real reasons she's struggled that have nothing to some fan entitlement. Moviesnob May 28, 14:19

Ya I can't see Lucas coming back {nm} Randy May 28, 14:25

I think any top get would be too busy, I could see George Lucas as Exec Producer with the right olive branch, with Dave Filoni/Jon Favreau notfabio May 28, 14:52

actually, she has likely cost them billions {nm} RazorHawk May 28, 14:19

How has she cost them billions ? {nm} Randy May 28, 14:25

s {nm} Wellespring May 28, 14:35

Steve Sansweet {nm} Wellespring May 28, 14:36

Dave Filoni, obviously {nm} Filmstardust May 28, 19:08

Not really an option. He's got the creative side down but he's never produced a movie, let alone something for Disney {nm} Moviesnob May 28, 19:20

That's EXACTLY who Disney needs. Filoni understands and loves SW, Kennedy doesn't love SW, she's sought to change it and ruined it. She Baron_Darcon2017 May 28, 22:47

Completely agree. {nm} Filmstardust May 29, 06:47

Is this a joke, right? {nm} Filmstardust May 28, 19:06

They just have one RUIN Johnson to blame ... he’s started the downfall {nm} bunty_ketti May 28, 15:25

Can't stand people saying "this is the first bomb". Star Wars endure 40 years, it was indestructible, there's NO REASON to settle with that. Filmstardust May 28, 19:03

all of the prequels were bad and would have made a lot more money for Fox if they had been up to the level of the originals slipping jimmy May 28, 19:14

"Why I Hate George Lucas (And You Should Too)" slipping jimmy May 28, 19:18

Agreed, on all counts. SW shouldn't settle being a normal franchise. Absolutely not. {nm} VictorY May 28, 19:16

Star Wars Fanboys can never fail, only be failed {nm} slipping jimmy May 28, 19:20





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