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let me try to rephrase what HSXsanity was intending to say...

Posted by: RazorHawk on Dec 02, 12:14 in response to DTXbro's post I appreciate what you do here. If I believed it...

HSX has seen a number of trolls posting on the HSX Boards over the years.  The most common defense that is brought up when a troll is confronted about their behavior is that they are protected by the First Amendment of the United States Constitution which allows them "freedom of speech" which they interpret as meaning that they are allowed to say anything they want.


There are two points that HSXsanity would like to point out about these situations.


First, HSXsanity would like to point out in general that the First Amendment is not a blanket statement that simply allows anybody to say anything that they like. 

It is against Federal Law to verbally threaten the safety of the US President (for example).  It is against the law to provide false testimony in court.  You can be held responisble for slandering somebody's character in public.  Profanity is not allowed on publically broadcasted US television stations.  These are just a few random examples where "free speech" does have some limitations.

Second, HSXsanity would like to point out that HSX is not considered a public place.  This is a game run by a company and each player agreed to follow the terms of a contract (Terms Of Use) when they applied for an account.  The Terms Of Use that players agreed to follow outlines behavior that is considered unacceptable within this game. Players who violate the Terms Of Use can be punished by HSX (by a fine to their port; scribbling of their post(s) on the HSX Boards; not being allowed to post on the HSX Boards; account suspension; account deletion; ban from the game).


Most of the behavior that would violate a player following HSX's Term Of Service are things that players should know from common sense:

don't try to cheat; don't harrass/stalk other players; do not disrupt another player from being able to play the game; do not intentionally post false news on the boards to manipulate prices; do not spam the boards; do not harrass other players because of their race, gender, sexual preference, age, religion, ethnicity, disability, etc...


The purpose of HSXsanity's post was to point out that trollish behavior does not have to simply be tolerated by HSX (or HSX Players) because a troll shouts that they can say anything because of the First Amendment.  Bad behavior can (and should) be punished by HSX (as needed).


"HSXsanity is an attempt to answer the simple questions that come up repeatedly about the Hollywood Stock Exchange."

 


I've been busy on other projects lately, but there are two new articles on HSXsanity. RogerMore Nov 30, 14:08

thx {nm} tealfan Nov 30, 15:17

Au contraire. What you say on HSX is protected by the First Amendment. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Nov 30, 17:24

I am not bound, nor protected, by First Amendment. So, I guess those rules don't apply to me. Good thing there is a CoC... {nm} PVL Admin Nov 30, 19:11

Who said anything about losing First Amendment rights? Not me. RogerMore Nov 30, 19:50

Are you a constitutional lawyer (whatever that means)? I am a lawyer whose practice includes the First Amendment. I have concluded that DTXbro Dec 01, 12:09

Yeah, it's not a perfect article. I really wanted to get across that what's said on the boards is governed by the Terms of Use, and the 1st Roger More Dec 01, 14:28

Already did. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Dec 01, 17:21

I appreciate what you do here. If I believed it appropriate to pick those nits, I would have done it when I first read the article. {nm} DTXbro Dec 01, 19:13

let me try to rephrase what HSXsanity was intending to say... RazorHawk Dec 02, 12:14

Had HSXsanity said exactly that, there would not have been any problem. (See inside). RotoHockeyYTD2012 Dec 02, 15:57

I haven't observed a debate like this about the law since my first year of law school . . . DTXbro Dec 02, 18:48

You don't deserve a response from RogerMore. You {nm} eyescovered Dec 02, 19:10

You were the one who brought the First Amendment into the discussion. Antibody Dec 03, 17:10

Into this discussion? Not at all. Totally different matter and totally different issues. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Dec 03, 21:08

No, in the discussion of using the First Amendment as an excuse, {nm} Antibody Dec 04, 10:38

He already admitted that he was wrong - already made corrections. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Dec 03, 21:11

RotoHockey, you should re-examine the law and statutes. Trentacus Dec 03, 08:23

Enlightened - not at all - that's exactly what was being said. (See inside). RotoHockeyYTD2012 Dec 03, 16:49

Your statement, 'What you say on HSX isn't protected by the First Amendment' is patently FALSE. Please remove it. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Nov 30, 19:47

Still poorly worded - 'action by HSX under the First Amendment'. Please remove 'under the First Amendment'. (See inside). RotoHockeyYTD2012 Nov 30, 20:43

RogerMore explained the First Amendment perfectly, at 19:50, above. Saved me the trouble. Not sure what you're on about. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Nov 30, 20:47

Your statement 'The First Amendment applies ... not to private corporations' is patently FALSE. Please remove it. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Nov 30, 20:52

Yeah, I won't be making changes because you're not good at reading. RogerMore Dec 01, 07:00

Exceptional at reading. Small wonder they have to butter the sides of your head to get you through the Theatre Doors. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Dec 01, 12:10

You should start a blog and post there instead of here. Then you can delete all comments that contradict what you think/believe. {nm} eyescovered Dec 01, 12:25

Such name calling! I think I'm done giving you any attention. {nm} Roger More Dec 01, 14:26

Can we call you Butter Head from now on, Roger? Hmm..actually, that sounds more like a Bond girl name. {nm} Paul2k Dec 01, 15:52

Agent Butterhead - he likes he likes a good piece of toast --with butter melted not softened {nm} JDolphin Dec 01, 18:22

Licensed to spread. {nm} RogerMore Dec 02, 09:07

Licensed to fill. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2012 Dec 02, 11:34

The First Amendment guarantees the RIGHT to say whatever you want. It does NOT guarantee the means. JohnTEQP Dec 02, 19:13

That's a good expansion on freedom of speech. edzep - Port Monkey! Dec 02, 20:40





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