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I'm thinking there's going to be a lot of disappointed people come Sunday.

Posted by: mantleclinic on Dec 15, 09:01 in response to Dorfman's post Wow no tracking out.. and people on boards talkinb about...

The 1st LOTR movies grew from the first to the last while this series appears to be shrinking. The first 2 hobbit films opened on Fridays to little or no competition opening against it (unless you count Madea's X-Mas). The BOM page theater estimate is listed as 3850+ which means it may open on less screens than the previous 2 installments and the Wed opening is sure to burn off weekend demand. The only positives I see is this is the last one and Warners is playing that up and the run time is 20 minutes less and theaters may be able to sneak in 1 more screening per day.

Wow no tracking out.. and people on boards talkinb about hobbit doing less than 70ow yet it's climbed over 12 pts in last 2 days... {nm} Dorfman Dec 15, 08:45

Personally, I think Warner Bros. is trying to milk Hobbit as much as they can... I'm thinking they've run their course... {nm} Flash Dec 15, 08:49

Well yeah! What are they gonna do next? The Silmarillion? (link) Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 15, 11:35

There's enough material in it he might be able to do 72 movies. If he had the rights. ;) {nm} DTravel Dec 15, 11:38

It's not the last we've heard of Tolkien. A British film, titled Tolkien & Lewis is in the works... Lucky_Muppet Dec 15, 11:49

Lucky Muppet, message inside DTravel Dec 15, 19:49

Haha - thanks DT! Lucky_Muppet Dec 16, 09:13

Oh gawd - remember before LOTR when we had Hobbit stock... Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 15, 12:15

I'm thinking there's going to be a lot of disappointed people come Sunday. mantleclinic Dec 15, 09:01

It's Pump and Dump stock market rally. {nm} mike255 Dec 15, 09:36

Hobbit opens on Wed and gets 2 extra days of box office. {nm} Antibody Dec 15, 09:57

I'm more Bearish on this one, myself. Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 15, 12:07

10M?! LOTR3 did 51 Wed/Thu + 72M Fri-Sun. LOTR2 did $40M + $62M. LOTR1 did $28 + $47M. {nm} Antibody Dec 15, 14:44

Yes they did. Hobbit opened to $84.5M 3-day, 2 opened to $73.5M 3-day. However... Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 15, 16:58

It's not about being a bear or a bull, it's about whether your ratio is logical or just random darts. {nm} Antibody Dec 16, 09:08

Oh - and Pro Box Office has the long-range forecast at $68M opening, and there hasn't Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 15, 17:02

65 - 3 day. (68 is old info) {nm} Awards Fund Dec 15, 17:47

Then a similar 60% ratio to your $62 Fri-Sun would be $37M Wed-Thu = $204. {nm} Antibody Dec 15, 18:01

Imma say $17M Wed/Thu + $49M Fri-Sun. And that's taking into consideration the 3/3 bump. Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 15, 18:18

Your ratio is still not consistent with the past. A $49M weekend would mean ~$30M weekdays. {nm} Antibody Dec 16, 09:07

No, the trend was an $11M decline in weeklies per installment. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 11:07

huh? You mean a $11M increase. {nm} Antibody Dec 16, 11:14

Damn! Read it backwards. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 11:27

no I didn't, actually, I just said weeklies instead of installments... Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 12:09

That's WEEKEND. A 11% decline would mean $62M weekend with ~$37M. Now I'm just repeating myself. {nm} Antibody Dec 16, 12:40

Actually, average 37% of total 5-day in weekday numbers. Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 12:12

No, I'm refering to Wed-Thu/Fri-Sun ratio. So LOTR3 was 70%; LOTR2 65%; LOTR1 60%. Average is actually 65%. {nm} Antibody Dec 16, 12:43

you are saying xx% of the weekend numbers (65% of what the weekend did). I am saying Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 13:51

Reverse this: Weekdays = (weekend/.35 ((or .37)) Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 13:54

Screw it - I'm just making it more confusing. Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 15:01

The last LOTR was 11 yrs ago - not sure that's a good comparision for today's market - see my post below about Wed openers {nm} JDolphin Dec 15, 22:08

They are absolutely comparable and gives us the best possible weekday to weekend ratios. {nm} Antibody Dec 16, 09:05

I think the last 2 Hobbit movies are better comparisons than the LOTR films. {nm} Dorfman Dec 16, 10:48

Agreed, of course. Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Dec 16, 11:12

The last 2 Hobbits didn't open on Wed. {nm} Antibody Dec 16, 11:12





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