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Posted by: goodvibe61 on Jun 30, 20:00 in response to MasterofPinball1983's post support your claim

One of the most important things is the complete and utter lack of stakes for anyone in this movie. I think I want to blame tone. To say it's inconsisent is the understatement of the year. In one way this franchise knows what it wants to deliver, visuals. Any other element of story telling? Forget about it. 

The performances are uniformly mediocre, far less than memorable. The "guest stars" just don't get it done. In a couple cases (Ken Jeong, Turturro) it's not necessarily for a lack of trying, but the lighthearted tone in spots simply does not work when combined with the action, it hasn't in any of these movies, and I guess it never will. Patrick Dempsey is okay I guess. At least he didn't completely suck. Jeong, Malkovich, and McDormand are all so over the top, knowing they have zero to work with material wise. It's really kind of sad sitting there watching these actors do this ****. I kept envisioning McDormand doing the Fargo accent through it, and it got some chuckles out of me that her actual performance here could never hope to muster.

I'm not sure if the bigger problem is Duhamel or Shia. First off, Duhamel just basically sucks in these movies. He doesn't close, and he doesn't close again here. I think at this point, with a small body of "work" behind him, he's pretty reliable, you can depend on him to deliver a mediocre performance. When I see this guy on screen he screams pretty boy to me. Particularly in these movies. I guess I have to blame Spielberg for this. I must admit there have been times when I haven't loved his casting choices, and this is one of the prime examples. Other times his casting is superb. I'd love to know what jumped out at him to pick this used car salesman for such a big part of a large franchise. 

The new girl (I don't know her damn name yet) is basically a puppet. She's fine, she's interchangeable with the previous chick. I don't go to this movie for the girl. There are hundreds like her on Cinemax after dark. I think it's safe to say, based on her role in this that she's not a professional actress. But as I said, who cares?

Shia. No. 

 

I honestly believe the script was put together over the course of a long weekend. Kruger: this is a far more muddled set up than your last "screenplay" in this series. Enjoy the cash Kruger. The story here has so little in it to interest the audience. Who knows, maybe Bay demands it be that way. Just get out of the way, forget any kind of relatable, emotional, human hook, and let me turn the effects on so you can all watch a big city come down. Maybe that's the problem: maybe it's my loss that I don't just switch off my story telling instincts and fall completely for the viscreral. It's not how I roll. 

The mythology of the Autobots and Decepticons: The rendering has never hooked me. As a result, I Don't Give A Shit. That's not good when you're watching a series of movies with recurring characters. I need something to care about. 

Notice I haven't mentioned **** about what everyone goes to see these movies for. The computer generated effects. I guess, after watching the second movie suck so bad, and now this one, I just couldn't give a **** about the action in these movies. It's all so ridiculous, based on the most purile set ups, and then some derivitive effects. Space Bridges? Pillars on the moon? Use Chicago as a boxing ring? 

Who gives a ****.

I'll tell you what. This movie would one whole extra star if it was just 45 minutes shorter. Could the "story" have been told in that much time? Don't make me laugh. It's painful how epic a fail this movie is, not walking the fine line from action and melodrama to humor and pathos. Painfully bad. It's so damn awkward to watch. 

I think of an old school action film, like Raiders of the Lost Ark. They set up the whole franchise in the first 8 minutes of that film, and they did with close to ZERO dialogue, and created memorable characters among unforgettable action sequences. Now Spielberg is producing this? 

 

 

if TFRM3 does have underwhemling BO, could it just be a feeling of "this movie is just more of the same"?... tealfan Jun 30, 16:12

megan fox {nm} kalelanalang Jun 30, 16:39

+1 .... that woman is ridiculously hot... i went the second time purely to see her... damn those transformers... {nm} b4bad Jun 30, 16:46

I think just as many of us think RHW is hotter. {nm} dsbman Jun 30, 17:04

she is average... :) {nm} b4bad Jun 30, 17:53

No way! {nm} Juiced Jun 30, 17:56

I think it's because the 2nd one sucked {nm} nero5150 Jun 30, 16:46

This. 3rd one is much better though. {nm} Nightfury82 Jun 30, 17:32

I went in and watched a good chunk of this new one today. It is mind numbingly awful. Dreadful stuff. It's just a ridiculous mess. {nm} goodvibe61 Jun 30, 18:45

support your claim {nm} MasterofPinball1983 Jun 30, 18:52

Okay. goodvibe61 Jun 30, 20:00

thats a great review. Good support to your claims. I'll have to see if I agree when i eventually see it. Thanks {nm} MasterofPinball1983 Jun 30, 20:14

Does Bay's camera oogle the new girl the way it/he did Fox, especially in part 2? {nm} HarryWarden Jun 30, 20:17

It's the ONLY way she's shot. {nm} goodvibe61 Jun 30, 21:32

"You throw me the Bumblebee. I give you the whip." second gary Jun 30, 21:04

Now THERE'S A screenplay! The idol! Adios senor'! {nm} goodvibe61 Jun 30, 21:26

Awful moments in script-writing this week, from the IMRTL trailer: "He fears only the failure to defend his freedom." second gary Jun 30, 21:40

I liked the first two. The first one better than the second but I didn't hate it like some people. I own both on Blu-ray. HarryWarden Jun 30, 19:35





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