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V: Man of Steel is on track for a potential $100 million debut at the U.S. box office. [SUPR2] Antibody Jun 06, 14:09

THR: Warner Bros. and Legendary Pictures are suggesting a domestic debut of $75 million-plus. Internally, a number in the $85 to $90 million Antibody Jun 06, 17:49

I'm a bit surprised its flixster number is just below 82k. {nm} second gary Jun 06, 18:11

It's all just the inevitable lowball silly season IMO, which unfortunately has to be played for now because it affects the game. {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 18:20

How do you lowball a Flixster number? Prevent people from accessing the page? {nm} Antibody Jun 06, 18:30

Flixster is irrelevant IMO, even to HSX. It's V, THR, Warners etc. lowballing that affects the game. {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 18:42

Warners is lifting the embargo Monday night. They already know it'll be well reviewed. Sanity may take hold soon after. :-) {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 18:44

xiayun would mention flixster numbers in his prediction posts, as does Shawn. {nm} second gary Jun 06, 18:48

RT matters. Flixster is just the unscientific RT # buried in RT's "want to see". Few bother with it (82K is peanuts). Warners own both. {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 19:02

I am just pointing out that some of the best analysts who post here take this number into account. {nm} second gary Jun 06, 19:06

RT (critics' opinion) doesn't matter. Flixster number is a volume that can be compared. Stop spreading misinformation. {nm} Antibody Jun 06, 19:08

Stop completely missing the point. RT is not cause-effect (though there is an element of that). It's correlation and it's PROVEN. {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 19:18

** This post has been removed by the forum moderator! ** KalElFan Jun 06, 19:20

Prove it. {nm} Antibody Jun 06, 19:23

This was a reply to above. Please prove RT has a correlation. I don't even know to what. {nm} Antibody Jun 06, 19:24

Google it, e.g see the Conclusion at http://www.stat.berkeley.edu/~aldous/157/Old_Projects/kennedy.pdf {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 20:20

It used MetaCritic but specifically cited the strong correlation it had to RT, and saying RT was actually LESS subjective. {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 20:20

Also RogerMore http://hsxsanity.blogspot.ca/2013/04/does-high-rotten-tomatoes-rating-mean.html on WOM, legs, etc. correlation. {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 20:22

It doesn't prove anything. "the first week has an incredibly low correlation" We already know about WOM and legs. Antibody Jun 06, 20:54

Anyone can predict the box office from the seventh week on. RT doesn't matter at all before that. Antibody Jun 06, 21:08

It's all the same correlation, i.e. to box office. The OW, WOM, "legs" etc., it's all B.O. The issue is how fast anything propagates. {nm} KalElFan Jun 07, 04:25

You've taken the "7th week" peak like it was the only correlation (it's not), when it was a function of that limited sample in 2007. {nm} KalElFan Jun 07, 04:29

The correlation is across the board, and six years later with faster tech and social media it's becoming more near-instantaneous. {nm} KalElFan Jun 07, 04:31

I mean, seriously, how many people, in the grand scheme of things, bother going to "Flixster" to vote? Few know what it is. {nm} KalElFan Jun 06, 19:05

Enough people do to generate a number that can be correlated with box office of other films. {nm} Antibody Jun 06, 19:09

** This post has been removed by the forum moderator! ** KalElFan Jun 07, 04:42

WWARZ's flixster number is just below 80k. {nm} second gary Jun 06, 18:34

YES! Let it begin! {nm} thatpj Jun 06, 20:24