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ignoring the color of ones skin is ignoring their history, culture and day to day existence. We dont strive to blur cultures together
but empower them all equally.
white people will always take soothing jingoism over the uncomfortable history of America's racism, it's true {nm} Jan 11, 12:21
This a ridiculous and offensive generalization. {nm} Jan 11, 12:57
i look forward to being proved wrong by white moviegoers Jan 11, 13:04
Neither TAKE3 or SELMA were remotely appealing enough to get me into a theater. This does not make me a racist. {nm} Jan 11, 13:09
you have LOTS of black friends! {nm} Jan 11, 13:13
Empty logic followed by personal attack. Have a nice day. {nm} Jan 11, 13:16
you get upset at that but don't get upset at Stereotypical blacks like Kevin hart or Tyler perry. right. {nm} Jan 11, 13:39
i'm not upset, just giving my theory on why Selma would underperform compared to other non-controversial Oscar movies {nm} Jan 11, 13:48
Like 12 years a slave? How well did The Help do again? {nm} Jan 11, 15:27
Who cares about color at 11 million OW? Oh wait, you do. That makes YOU the racist here. {nm} Jan 11, 14:32
Why does caring about colour make someone racist? {nm} Jan 11, 14:39
Um...wha? {nm} Jan 11, 14:44
"Who cares about color at 11 million OW? Oh wait, you do. That makes YOU the racist here" {nm} Jan 11, 14:45
ignoring the color of ones skin is ignoring their history, culture and day to day existence. We dont strive to blur cultures together Jan 11, 15:04
thats simply not true. racism exists outside the US. Especially in the film industry. {nm} Jan 11, 15:09
i'm not. I'm saying that ignoring one's (or a group) skin color is robbing them of their identity. Jan 11, 15:16
As much as you like to idealize, racism is not over. "black lives matter". {nm} Jan 11, 15:11
No, you said caring about color makes you racist. {nm} Jan 11, 15:15
OBVIOUSLY not what was meant, in context of the statement as a whole. Please! {nm} Jan 11, 15:21
All these post by charlie are impyling racism and should be scrubbed out. They are offensive. {nm} Jan 11, 14:42
whitewashed, as it were {nm} Jan 11, 14:43
and yet another example. Please remove all racist post before someone gets offended. {nm} Jan 11, 14:45
Faux outrage. Discussion of race is not racist. {nm} Jan 11, 14:46
This is not a discussion but an attack on people not choosing to watch a horrible movie by calling the world racist {nm} Jan 11, 14:48
"horrible movie"? so you've seen it yourself? {nm} Jan 11, 14:49
Oh ok. How was the Hispanic turnout at SELMA? Was it higher than the Gay and Lesbian turnout? {nm} Jan 11, 14:50
If this is a discussion about racism then please support your claim with facts. {nm} Jan 11, 14:51
thank you {nm} Jan 11, 15:07
I don't deny it. Charlie is demonstrating it quite well. {nm} Jan 11, 14:45
Selma is rated 99% at RT and 89% at Metacritic. what's your theory for why audiences didn't turn out more to see it? {nm} Jan 11, 14:48
Don't know and don't care. Why don't you ask your friends why they didn't go. {nm} Jan 11, 15:03
But my theory, if i had one, would NOT be based on color. {nm} Jan 11, 15:04
...or race, religion, sexual orientation... {nm} Jan 11, 15:06
Why not? The U.S. today is far from being colorblind. "Black lives matter". {nm} Jan 11, 15:09
Wow. {nm} Jan 11, 15:17
Double wow {nm} Jan 11, 15:22
Because I don't believe the majority of americans are as shallow as you and charlie seem to believe. {nm} Jan 11, 15:15
$40 million for a pointless Liam Neeson sequel says they are {nm} Jan 11, 15:18
. . . because they are shallow {nm} Jan 11, 15:25
i find it interesting that you are being called a bigot here, and you havent called anyone racist. {nm} Jan 11, 15:26
Really? Can you even read? He didnt come out and say it but he has implied it countless times with his bigotted remarks Jan 11, 15:31
his personal feelings are established facts in film distribution Jan 11, 15:35
If they just would have not broken the law and obeyed the established order then the police would have not had to Jan 11, 16:32
Since you can read his mind so well explain these established facts that justifies his drawing a line between races Jan 11, 16:35
There's only one bigot who has made incriminated himself here. {nm} Jan 11, 15:27
And this person is? {nm} Jan 11, 15:32
I thought this whole tread was a mere discussion about racism with no supporting facts, as per your statement {nm} Jan 11, 15:34
...and there you have it. Case closed. {nm} Jan 11, 15:23
boyhood played in less than 800 theaters at its widest release. {nm} Jan 11, 15:11
He used the critic rating to justify whjy people where racist for not seeing Selma, So I countered. {nm} Jan 11, 15:23
So why did Selma get more theaters when it had lower critic rating? <sarcasm> And why should that matter? {nm} Jan 11, 15:19
you don't understand how being in 3x as many theaters gives you 3x the potential box office returns? {nm} Jan 11, 15:21
And Selma made 4x times the money on OW. Movies are overhyped all the time. {nm} Jan 11, 15:37
Not going to see a movie in the winter about a subject that's been around for 50 yrs does not make you racist {nm} Jan 11, 15:38
He never said it does {nm} Jan 11, 15:39
He said "White people" instead of just people that implies racism for many. But I realize now that was troll bait so I Jan 11, 16:07
I've never heard of Louis Zamperini before and I'd bet most other people haven't either. {nm} Jan 11, 16:04
Hollywood has been trying to make a movie version since the 50s and Unbroken sold millions of copies {nm} Jan 11, 16:06
b/c you're comparing apples (saturated releases) and oranges (limited releases). {nm} Jan 11, 15:21
then you're the only person who thinks boyhood didnt maximize its audience. Its considered a major arthouse hit {nm} Jan 11, 15:54
its not an exact science theater count, what theaters and total box office defines arthouse releases, not content Jan 11, 16:43
really? Hercules - 2104 theaters made 18 mil boxoffice. {nm} Jan 11, 16:39
+1 {nm} Jan 11, 14:50
Apparently not many black people went to see it, either. Are they racist, too? {nm} Jan 11, 13:08
+1 {nm} Jan 11, 15:02
i am not sue it has anything to do with race. However, another biopic...*yawn*. {nm} Jan 11, 14:03
they keep on cranking them out.....plenty to choose from. {nm} Jan 11, 14:15
2 of those stories are new to the public, like American Sniper. {nm} Jan 11, 14:16
Hollywood has never made a movie about MLK before Jan 11, 14:18
That doesn't make the MLK story any newer. The American public has heard it before. I have a dream speech has Jan 11, 14:32
that was at the March on Washington, not the Selma march {nm} Jan 11, 14:35
(but since America has heard it all before, you obviously knew that) {nm} Jan 11, 14:37
black PEOPLE are clearly interested in seeing it Jan 11, 14:39
At 11 million, not so much. Clearly their interest was not stong enough to get them to the theatres. {nm} Jan 11, 14:43
I'm totally with you. I hate it when other people don't spend their money the way I think they should. {nm} Jan 11, 14:51
the DVD will cost you more than $13.00 {nm} Jan 11, 15:20
but more then one person can watch it. {nm} Jan 11, 15:36
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You mean... with your posts deleted? {nm} Jan 11, 19:36
I think it'll have much better than average legs, but yeah an eleven million start isn't a very big base to decline from. Jan 11, 12:34
Stock way down for the awards season. Oprah going down again this yr. Academy rejected The Butler now Selma limping. {nm} Jan 11, 13:14
I agree with you on Oprah and The Butler. The movie was outstanding and amazing. And I think she did a fantastic job Jan 11, 15:41
maybe it gets a birthday boost next weekend.... {nm} Jan 11, 15:34
If Tyler Perry had directed it, it would've done 20 mill. {nm} Jan 11, 13:57
If Spielberg...if... Maybe people are just sick of biopics. {nm} Jan 11, 14:09
Spielberg directed a biopic about white politicians freeing the slaves. audiences loved it {nm} Jan 11, 15:02
Not so much - ignore the content and look at how other movies have done on this weekend in past years - 5000 PTA vs 6000 {nm} Jan 11, 15:57
Audience demos from BOM. Kinda proves your assumptions are invalid... Jan 11, 17:12
Source is BOG, link included... Jan 11, 17:14
what are the breakdowns for American Sniper? {nm} Jan 11, 17:37
Irrelevant. You said 'white people' (your words) didn't (or won't) go see SELMA. You are wrong. {nm} Jan 11, 19:07
and i will bet you that the split between white/black audiences for American Sniper is far greater than Selma's {nm} Jan 11, 19:30
I would love to continue to feed the troll, but I have run out of righteous indignation. {nm} Jan 11, 19:36
Happily NOT going to read any of the above :-) {nm} Jan 11, 23:38
