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this is also how i feel about the Cruella De Vil concept, im all about female led productions, but we dont need her origin story {nm}

Posted by: adrenalin112 on May 18, 13:56 in response to Jay_Beezy's post That highlights my issue with the gender politics here.

Enough with the GHST3 sexism crap. Loved Bridesmaids. Looking forward to and fully invested in Bad Moms. GHST3 looks awful. {nm} PhoneHome May 18, 13:15

i saw Sisters OW & enjoyed it. Also watched trainwreck OW & hated it. {nm} adrenalin112 May 18, 13:33

Ghostbusters is the only one that's a remake of an old movie starring 4 guys. {nm} Antibody May 18, 13:39

I mean "reboot" {nm} Antibody May 18, 13:40

I don't think that makes the point you think it makes. {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! May 18, 13:50

Yes, they're saying "we can't be sexist because we like these movies starring women". Those don't carry the weight of an existing property. {nm} Antibody May 18, 13:53

But it seems to me you're saying that if you don't like GHST3 it's only because you're sexist. Maybe it's just another bad reboot. {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:19

The examples they gave are not reboots. {nm} Antibody May 18, 14:21

Why does that matter so much. Plenty of reboots, remakes aren't as good as the original. Why can't this be the case for this movie? {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:28

You're really late to the discussion. See the record dislikes for GHST3 trailer and sexists comments on Youtube. {nm} Antibody May 18, 14:31

I'm not late. I've seen that. But you seem to think the only reason not to like this is sexism. Maybe for some that's true but not for all. {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:38

he posted an op ed that states otherwise just below {nm} Moviesnob May 18, 14:40

I'm not arguing for all, just pointing out the flaw to those who don't think sexism play a part at all. {nm} Antibody May 18, 14:41

But the problem is there is no way to know. Is the backlash because of sexism or a much loved movie is being remade in their opinion badly? {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:46

there are a lot of sexists comments about the first trailer. {nm} Moviesnob May 18, 14:47

SW 7 had a lot of Sexist comments too, but not the same level of dislikes. {nm} medv4380 May 18, 15:06

because none of its problems were with Rey. if anything, it needed like 900% more of her {nm} slipping jimmy May 18, 16:06

And I have a semi neutral position because I didn't like the original, but I don't find those actresses funny or the trailer either {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:49

point break made what looked to be a ****ty reboot & i havent seen it. {nm} adrenalin112 May 18, 16:50

its not about replacing 4 guys with 4 gals, because i guarantee had these 4 gals been better selected the buzz would be positive {nm} adrenalin112 May 18, 13:51

emma stone, saldana, ScarJo, rebel wilson, anna kendrick, zoe kravitz, & any female from parks & rec would have created more positivity {nm} adrenalin112 May 18, 13:54

So you want the "sexy" Ghostbusters Halloween costumes, and no the comedienne equivalent of Murray, Aykroyd and Ramis. {nm} Antibody May 18, 14:13

No they're saying in their opinion the actresses in this movie are NOT the equivalent and the ones they are proposing maybe are. {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:24

It's all subjective, so the people that see sexism have a case and the people that say it's just not funny have a case. {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:26

That would be wrong. MMCCA is the biggest comedienne today and KWIIG is up there. 3 came out of SNL like the original cast. Antibody May 18, 14:27

Popularity does not equal quality of acting/comedy. I found 70's SNL funny alot, I don't find McCarthy funny - that doesn't make me sexist {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:35

no, but popularity means public consensus. Everyone has opinions and preferences, but popularity suggest majority opinion {nm} Moviesnob May 18, 14:41

That's your opinion. Box office disagrees with you. {nm} Antibody May 18, 14:43

I give up - because some jerks on youtube post bad thing anonymously that equates to the movie failing because of sexism not because it just JDolphin May 18, 14:54

it was another poor remake. Maybe the studio is behind all of this so they have a reason to blame if it fails {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:55

Box office does not equal quality, otherwise we'd know all the oscar winners in advance. Comedy is VERY subjective {nm} JDolphin May 18, 14:58

Yup MMCCA is one of the biggest comedians out there but I wouldn't think you'd bring size into it.... =P {nm} Baron_Darcon May 18, 20:41

Emma stone has timing, You don't have to be fall down slapstick funny but have good timing and a good script and this script isn't funny. {nm} Baron_Darcon May 18, 20:43

That highlights my issue with the gender politics here. Jay_Beezy May 18, 13:52

this is also how i feel about the Cruella De Vil concept, im all about female led productions, but we dont need her origin story adrenalin112 May 18, 13:56

maybe 'we' dont, but maybe someone else does {nm} islander May 18, 14:02

see jay this sounds like you are saying only men should get the franchises and name brands {nm} islander May 18, 13:58

All franchises and brands start out as original concepts. {nm} Jay_Beezy May 18, 14:00

I think the majority would be favorable to a half way decent Furiosa origin story in the mad max franchise {nm} adrenalin112 May 18, 14:09

I think the majority are fairly opened minded period. {nm} Moviesnob May 18, 14:10

I'll amend my statement: original concepts and previously existing female brands. {nm} Jay_Beezy May 18, 14:13

Although, in my original defense, Furiosa was an original creation for Fury Road. {nm} Jay_Beezy May 18, 14:14

And I was looking forward it, but the trailers look terrible. Perhaps I'm prejudiced against comedies that aren't funny. {nm} PhoneHome May 18, 13:56

WOW! Enough with sexism, white-washing, etc on this board. Sometimes it's just a business decision {nm} vadym May 18, 16:44

Hollywood is about making money. This isn't a non-profit promoting social equality {nm} vadym May 18, 16:45

not sure what you mean. Franchise films are the bedrock of studio filmmaking. {nm} Moviesnob May 18, 19:23

I'm with you on Bad Moms TwoMisfits May 18, 14:21

Heck, I'd almost bet Bad Moms will be the #1 comedy of the summer... {nm} TwoMisfits May 18, 14:27

From the trailer, IMO the cast looks like the only thing this movie got right. I want it to be good, but I'm not seeing it yet. {nm} stevie1der328 May 18, 16:22

When I first heard they were doing this I really thought they were going a more Ghost Hunters angle, have psychics and stuff. Woman are.. Baron_Darcon May 18, 20:45





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