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I'm not trying to get you to agree with me - I just want you to understand how bad your argument is.

Posted by: RogerMore on Feb 20, 06:43 in response to Scorpion's post And you're avoiding the fact that they were rarely used...

I'm just using Occam's razor - taking the information (which you provided) and coming up with the simplest explanations that I see.  You dismiss them as "flawed" and "baseless", but beyond picking nits you haven't given any alternative arguments of your own.

So why are mass shootings more common in the US than other countries?

And why are automatic weapons not used in these events? Why semi-automatic weapons?

These are issues that you either brought to the board or responded to, but haven't answered. Not really.

Anyway, since you chose Brazil as your comparison country, there have been two mass shootings (including one school shooting) in the last fifty years, compared to twenty mass shootings in the States since 2000:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_Americas

plus another 7 school shootings:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers:_School_massacres

and also the Wisconsin Sikh temple shooting:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killers#Religious.2C_political.2C_or_racial_crimes

So again, why are mass shootings more common in the US than other countries?

Country music star Mindy McCready commits suicide. Vashta Nerada Feb 17, 18:39

Hmmm - person with documented mental illness in possession of a gun - where have we heard that before. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Feb 17, 23:54

on reruns of Canadian TV show Flashpoint (on Ion Cable Network) {nm} RazorHawk Feb 18, 06:04

Endless array of mass shootings in the USA with automatic weapons. Pay attention. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Feb 18, 12:14

They're not "automatic". If you're going to spew your "righteousness", get it right. Else you just look stupid. {nm} Scorpion Feb 18, 17:40

Pay attention. Those mass shootings weapons were mostly semi-automatic or fully automatic weapons. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Feb 18, 20:27

Name a recent mass shooting where a fully automatic weapon was used in the US. Cause I think you're the one that needs to pay attention {nm} Scorpion Feb 19, 05:12

I'm guessing it's pretty rare, since fully automatic weapons are so tightly regulated. {nm} RogerMore Feb 19, 07:05

There's 240,000 fully automatic machine guns registered in private hands in the U.S. Expensive, but not difficult to obtain. Scorpion Feb 19, 13:24

So you obviously agree that making guns slightly harder to get hold of = fewer shootings. That's great! {nm} RogerMore Feb 19, 13:33

No, I do not agree with you. And it's clear that your argument using machine guns is so utterly baseless it's ludicrous. {nm} Scorpion Feb 19, 15:12

I'm confused. Your argument was that fully automatic weapons are rarely used in mass shootings. You agree that automatic weapons are more RogerMore Feb 19, 15:22

Yet, making a semi-auto weapon full auto is trivial for anyone that can use a power tool & the Internet. Scorpion Feb 19, 16:01

That completely avoids my simple question. RogerMore Feb 19, 19:55

And you're avoiding the fact that they were rarely used even before the regulations were tightened in the 1980's. Scorpion Feb 19, 22:10

I'm not trying to get you to agree with me - I just want you to understand how bad your argument is. RogerMore Feb 20, 06:43

I've given you perfectly viable reasons why you're premise isn't as solid as you think it is, you simple don't want to hear it. Scorpion Feb 20, 10:20

I should clarify a few things here... RogerMore Feb 20, 12:30

Mass shootings in the US typically happen in "gun-free zones". accountant_4_Jesus Feb 19, 14:30

Mass shootings are a far bigger problem in the United States than other countries. Why do you think this is so? RogerMore Feb 19, 15:54

There are a few reasons, most of which are controversial and I don't want to go into at this point in time. accountant_4_Jesus Feb 19, 16:03

You can email me if you want to keep it off the boards - but if not, have you been to America? RogerMore Feb 19, 20:34

Try comparing countries of similar populations and population densities. {nm} Scorpion Feb 19, 16:07

These are all liberal, urbanised democracies based on shared philosophies like the rule of law, liberty, freedom to live your life RogerMore Feb 19, 20:07

Your examples included robberies (which are not mass shootings) and some of the armed citizens are off-duty/retired police officers. {nm} Antibody Feb 19, 16:55

As John McClane is fond of saying, 'If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem'. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Feb 18, 12:21

Hmmm. Funny you'd say that... {nm} eyescovered Feb 19, 09:15

Sad story. It's ok she off'ed herself, did she have to off the dog, as well? Plenty of people would be willing to take it in. {nm} elchan Feb 18, 09:05

Life is precious and irreplaceable however, people are not {nm} wroberson Feb 19, 00:15





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