Gawker: the open secret of Harvey Weinstein's behavior with women is now out. (will the tide build and turn like Bill Cosby?)
Antibody
Apr 02, 10:43
insinuates OWILD,. GMOL and BLIVE all been helped by "casting" sessions.
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Antibody
Apr 02, 10:46
the Gretchen Mol story (how she got Rounders) i heard a long time ago
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professor smartbrain
Apr 02, 16:50
"She was living in a Hell's Kitchen walk-up when she was noticed by a talent agent who spotted her working as a hat check girl at Michael's
Facto
Apr 03, 07:40
Cosby drugged and raped his victims. Sounds like Harvey was "asking" these women, and they at least had a "choice" in the matter
BSmurf
Apr 02, 10:54
Classy comment. The guy needs muses. Show me a highly driven person who doesn't require inspiration - unless he's a manic preacher, who
Facto
Apr 02, 11:02
Wait, what? I'm having trouble finding anything resembling a point in your post. Who are you talking to, and about what?
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BSmurf
Apr 02, 11:05
More of a general comment, but one sees so much judgemental stuff. Here, the use of a word like "scumbag".
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Facto
Apr 02, 11:11
Would "Bully" (a widely accepted term to describe HW - even by HIM) have been more appropriate? He uses people to enrich himself w/o regard
BSmurf
Apr 02, 11:17
It ties in with a pattern seen many places. Here at HSX boards only a few get into it. My point isn't that he probably doesn't fit the term.
Facto
Apr 02, 11:37
So, (astonishingly) your point is that you don't like it when people call a spade a spade? And that somehow translates to a particular
BSmurf
Apr 02, 12:02
You are right - I don't like it. I find it lacking in class, and the entire idiom of "calling a spade a spade" revolts me. It's a mask for
Facto
Apr 02, 12:28
On the other hand, Facto
DTravel
Apr 02, 13:00
Sounds like a US cultural or interpretational thing. So, unless things are put very bluntly and coarsely, disapproval can't be communicated?
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Facto
Apr 02, 13:09
Disapproval can't be communicated without being _accurate_.
DTravel
Apr 02, 13:26
This might turn into an interesting debate, yet. A bit of sociology class and something to chew on. (No immediate reply.)
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Facto
Apr 02, 13:44
short version: "They were asking for it"
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professor smartbrain
Apr 02, 11:15
Yeah, right. Never listen to mickpix - especially when it comes to me, and those few others he's held grudges against for a number of years.
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Facto
Apr 02, 11:22
Maybe because they don't agree with your views on women.
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Antibody
Apr 02, 11:31
Oh yeah, it's gotta be that. I have views on women, now+
Facto
Apr 02, 11:33
(Supposed to be ? at the end. Might put "views on women" in quotes as well.) I'm just not a libtard, like some of these parrots.
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Facto
Apr 02, 11:34
As oppose to a conservative who think women should be subservient to men?
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Antibody
Apr 02, 11:36
Well, I guess in the US it boils down to just those two stereotypes. Even your two-party politics becomes useless noise and mudslinging.
Facto
Apr 02, 11:43
Please stop the name-calling or be banned.
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Antibody
Apr 02, 11:47
Ok, fine. Rules are rules. My apologies. I should take cues and learn to place passive-aggressive jabs, whenever possible, like he does :-)
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Facto
Apr 02, 11:53
The 'two-party politics' is hardly much different in Europe (epp & socialists), it's all the same.
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tatoufan
Apr 02, 13:08
Less theatrics and mud-slinging, but I guess we're/they're taking cues from the US and regressin, gradually..
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Facto
Apr 02, 13:24
Never listen to facto - especially when it comes to me, and those few others he's held grudges against for a number of years.
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RazorHawk
Apr 02, 11:40
Ehr.. Right. Let's make this about you and turn it all into a parody. I don't hold grudges against you. Get over yourself already..
Facto
Apr 02, 11:46
and then you post thingys like this....
RazorHawk
Apr 02, 12:01
I'd say that's about perceptiveness.
Facto
Apr 02, 12:21
passive-aggressiveness...
RazorHawk
Apr 02, 12:32
Well, that was neither a jab nor passive-aggressive. It was a jocular comment made in good spirit. Too bad it was misread as anything else.
Facto
Apr 02, 12:44
Its been years.. you still don't get it... I'll just put you on the list and I won't have to deal with it anymore.
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RazorHawk
Apr 02, 12:49
Been years? Years of what? Years of me not being able to read your mind? I honestly don't know what you're getting at.
Facto
Apr 02, 12:59
Also: Impressed that you had that tagged. A couple of general points:
Facto
Apr 02, 12:52
His point is to excuse rape, as near as I can tell.
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tawdryhepburn
Apr 02, 14:40
You should quit trying to tell/interpret then, because you're apparently really bad at it. And for the record: Accusing others of excusing
Facto
Apr 03, 05:03
You probably actually *are* a fan of Anthony Scallia so pointing out the similarities in your inductive reasoning would be counterproductive
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tawdryhepburn
Apr 03, 11:02
And I know Scallia's thought process well: my girlfriend is a lawyer and was a member of the *shudders* federalist society.
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tawdryhepburn
Apr 03, 11:03
He's not an artist. He's a powerful man using his position to gain sexual favors.
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Antibody
Apr 02, 11:27
#winning
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lhayes37
Apr 02, 11:38
Shoulda changed your nick to Charlie S or something for that one there, Les...
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Facto
Apr 02, 11:47
yeah woulda been better
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lhayes37
Apr 02, 12:04
It's despicable, but isn't that the norm for "powerful people"? They expect (and receive) more than they should, purely based on "leverage"
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Rocket123 aka PVL Admin
Apr 02, 11:47
Sexual harrassment is illegal.
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Antibody
Apr 02, 11:49
...but has to be proven, first..
Facto
Apr 02, 12:01
That comment says it all about your view. It's not a crime if you can get away with it!
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Antibody
Apr 02, 12:04
No. You're jumping to conclusions :) (Or applying rhetorics.) I actually think that "innocent until proven guilty" is a good principle for
Facto
Apr 02, 12:16
Who's to say what they should or should not receive? Who's the arbiter of that? Power is the most powerful aphrodisiac, many say.
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Facto
Apr 02, 11:57
Sexual harassment has to be proven - and therein lies the rub....
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Facto
Apr 02, 11:58
Yes, it has to be proven. But he shouldn't be able to prevent investigation into it just because he has money and influence.
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DTravel
Apr 02, 13:28
You think he holds power even over the police.. ?
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Facto
Apr 03, 05:30
I'll be glad to say he should not be asking women to strip, get on all fours so he can jerk off on their back
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Moviesnob
Apr 02, 11:58
No, that's Terry Richardson's job.
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DTravel
Apr 02, 13:04
There are at least a handful of comments I'd like to make to this post - and I find it hard to choose.
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Facto
Apr 02, 13:06
Choose better than "Power is the most powerful aphrodisiac, many say." That suggests they find casting couch behavior as sexuallystimulating
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Moviesnob
Apr 02, 13:14
Well, for one, I don't know if you're making assumptions or whether you know a lot more than is written in articles.
Facto
Apr 02, 13:23
Well I wasn't in the room but I do believe the people who have told me that.
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Moviesnob
Apr 02, 13:27
You know, like Roman Polanski.
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tawdryhepburn
Apr 02, 14:50
The mind boggles as to how you're able to bring him into this as well. Even as snark goes, these seem like low blows. Tawdry indeed.
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Facto
Apr 03, 05:23
Roman Polanski gained access to his 13-year old victim under the pretense that he was shooting a spread for Vogue.
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tawdryhepburn
Apr 03, 10:52
Okay. No name calling toward Harvey -- if the rumors were to be true, the word to use would be "Rapist."
tawdryhepburn
Apr 02, 14:21
Also boggles the mind what good expanding the rape definition does. That's a whole debate in itself - or perhaps you don't know.
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Facto
Apr 03, 05:25
Yeah... she was probably wearing a short skirt and should have known better than to drink alcohol around a man! #VictimBlaming
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tawdryhepburn
Apr 02, 14:39
You really ought to read more about rhetorics. Look up "strawman argument".
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Facto
Apr 03, 05:27
This topic is a mess, but the 'short skirt' rape apologia is absolutely relevant to the post I was responding to.
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tawdryhepburn
Apr 03, 10:53
And for the record, I am not accusing Weinstein of *anything* whatsoever. I am, however, stating that (cont'd inside)
tawdryhepburn
Apr 03, 11:00
THAT'S IT, I WILL SUE YOU ALL IF YOU KEEP UP THIS SLANDEROUS THREAD!!!
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WEINXFund
Apr 02, 20:19
;-/
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WEINXFund
Apr 02, 20:22
