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Interesting indeed but...

Posted by: Prophecy on Apr 08, 16:55 in response to Antibody's post Polygraph: Analysis of Film Dialogue from 2,000...

... it overlooks one thing that always remains popularly unsaid. Conflict is the driving force of any story. The suspense of a man failing is far more compelling than a woman failing because it is inherently known by all audiences that she will be taken care of by someone or something unless she belligerently refuses. Niche stories and plot points aside, that doesn't leave as many options for compelling female dialogue as it does a man's. The stakes are lower and they always will be for a woman in any story unless she is given masculine tendencies. However, this creates an 'uncanny valley' of sorts where the suspension of disbelieve is harder to achieve.

Polygraph: Analysis of Film Dialogue from 2,000 screenplays, Broken Down by Gender and Age Antibody Apr 08, 15:58

Hmmmmm. {nm} second gary Apr 08, 16:08

Oh. . . as in "interesting," and thanks for posting. {nm} second gary Apr 08, 16:09

Interesting indeed but... Prophecy Apr 08, 16:55

thanks for the mansplanation {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 08, 16:56

Thank you for proving my point. Prophecy Apr 08, 16:59

You've only proved that your point of view is sexist. {nm} Antibody Apr 08, 17:07

Please show me where my point is not accurate? Prophecy Apr 08, 17:10

Please show that it is. it's your opinion. {nm} Antibody Apr 08, 17:18

I did in my original post... Prophecy Apr 08, 17:27

Your original post was a bunch of sexist opinion. {nm} Antibody Apr 08, 17:28

Let's think of some compelling stories that can improve the gender dialogue equality {nm} Prophecy Apr 08, 17:36

your entire premise is false and sexist. every word. Your only "proof" is nameless screenwriters {nm} Moviesnob Apr 08, 17:18

"it is inherently known by all audiences that she will be taken care of by someone or something unless she belligerently refuses" {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 08, 17:26

Perfect! Give me an example of a female character where this isn't the case. {nm} Prophecy Apr 08, 17:30

the biggest movie of 2015 has a female protagonist that can and does save herself. In fact theres a scene where two men talk about saving Moviesnob Apr 08, 17:40

They had to orphan her and put her in a life of total galactic isolation and desolation surrounded by ugly aliens to suspend the disbelief.. Prophecy Apr 08, 18:08

I went with the example that included the biggest audience to disprove your assertion that "all audiences" think women cant save themselves Moviesnob Apr 08, 18:15

Where did I say women can't save themselves if they want to? You are moving away from the point irrationally. Prophecy Apr 08, 18:30

I see what happened here: you confused women with a flock of sparrows. {nm} numbersix_99 Apr 09, 04:21

"Thank you for proving my point" - statement of last refuge of the irredeemably wrong. {nm} TFeeney Apr 08, 23:59

You're still proving my point that something or someone will dive in to protect women thus lowering their stakes in compelling stories. {nm} Prophecy Apr 09, 11:34

Because someone disagrees with you does not prove your point {nm} JDolphin Apr 09, 13:45

It does if men blindly jump to the defense of women without logical discourse - thus proving my point. Lowering female stakes. Check mate. {nm} Prophecy Apr 09, 17:02

That only works if the people responding to you are all men, which they aren't. Thus proving you are the Ridiculous one. Game Over!! {nm} JDolphin Apr 09, 18:29

That explains it! Triple bonus points proven by me. {nm} Prophecy Apr 10, 12:57

I hope you drown. {nm} Biff68 Apr 08, 19:10

A veiled death threat! This is compelling from a story perspective. You wouldn't say that to a woman would you. {nm} Prophecy Apr 09, 11:37

eye opening stats no doubt, but I love so many films and I wouldn't want to change their structure... such as lobogotti Apr 08, 19:00

Heh. I like 10 Things I Hate About You too... Paul2k Apr 08, 19:34

ditto Paul! got to make time to meet up at some point. enjoy your posts on FB as well. you're a good man and lobogotti Apr 08, 19:46





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