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I suppose it depends what your definition of fun is.

Posted by: RogerMore on Apr 26, 23:07 in response to RHAWK's post um...

Like you, I think it is fun to have cash coming into my port. Also (and ironically, when you know which fund I manage) I like this to happen with as little work as possible. Trading on daily swings like the bounce is too much work for me - I'd have to make a list of the bonds I am speculating on, and then remember to flip them when the time is right. It's a mechanical, time-consuming process that I don't get much enjoyment out of, and it carries risks of getting burned if you are not trading at the right time.

 

It is true that maintaining a spreadsheet (like I do) is also a mechanical time consuming process, and if you don't like spreadsheets you shouldn't do it. (i do three updates a week taking about an hour in total) But I find it gives me advantages that keep me ahead of other traders. If there's a release date change, or a movie has a bigger (or smaller) opening weekend than expected, I can update the spreadsheet in real time and see immediately which star ones are worth flipping. Changing a price or a release date and pressing f9 to recalculate takes 10 seconds.

 

I think to maximize your gains you have to trade in the short term but also keep one eye on the medium term, and dROI is the most useful tool for that second part. dROI is a clear indicator of how other traders are going to play the stock. Bonds with a high dROI are likely to be more volatile as traders invest and then profit-take. More volatility = better to day trade. Knowing whether these stocks are on an upward or downward trend over the medium term is helpful to day traders in picking the peaks and troughs. Bonds with a low dROI are likely to see their price decline over time, as traders will not be interested in investing. that's why dROI is important, even if you're only doing short term trades.

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I found an interesting example of why context is needed wth respect to the Post Adjust Bond Show, with respect to dROI.... Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 26, 12:46

bond1=best islander Apr 26, 12:48

perfect example of the flaw with droi RazorHawk Apr 26, 15:21

Like every other factor in making Starbond investments, dROI is a tool that can be used and/or ignored by traders as appropriate. RogerMore Apr 26, 17:48

This was not meant as a criticism of your hard work. Only to point out context necessary to make good use of it. mrbinns Apr 26, 20:15

um... (don't know what to put here ~ again) RHAWK Apr 26, 21:48

Um..How can we search for Fembot's thoughts on trading? {nm} dioneta Apr 27, 14:53

um... RHAWK Apr 26, 20:50

I suppose it depends what your definition of fun is. RogerMore Apr 26, 23:07

"If It Makes You Happy.... RHAWK Apr 27, 09:04

half of my message is missing :( {nm} RHAWK Apr 27, 09:05

Hmmm... if you don't day-trade and you don't use dROI, what Starbond tool do you use? RogerMore Apr 27, 10:09

he says they're attached to the same movie, so surely they adjust over the same period {nm} Jane_Citizen Apr 27, 00:35

um... RHAWK Apr 27, 08:20

to wit: Jane_Citizen Apr 28, 19:08

No {nm} RHAWK Apr 29, 09:47

Yes, for the purposes of comparing the three examples it is. {nm} Jane_Citizen Apr 30, 17:34

no it isn't... RHAWK Apr 30, 20:18

Answers...(no fair peeking until you have an answer written down) Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 26, 12:52

Fantastic debate between some of the heavy hitters! srrichardson Apr 26, 23:07

In my experience, actual dROI (rather than calculated dROI) is larger for movies that have a higher next adjust over a span of 3 days. PRodQuanta Apr 27, 11:08

Implying that I actually use a mix of both investment strategies and it works great. Thanks to both of you. {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 27, 11:10

Heh - I thought I knew what you meant until I read your IM. {nm} RogerMore Apr 27, 13:28

I am not sure what you mean because your terminology is off....BUT Buy StarBond Fund 18 Apr 27, 20:33

I'm assuming dROI is daily Return On Investment (this very well could be wrong, I haven't checked). My explanation is inside PRodQuanta Apr 28, 09:13

This excludes any bounce phenomena {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 28, 09:31

This is known as the Bounce. It's something that mrbinns (in particular) does very well, and I assume it's what Razorhawk does also. RogerMore Apr 28, 09:39

(Oh actually, it's not the Bounce - but I think my IM still has it) {nm} RogerMore Apr 28, 09:41

Yes, I believe you have the gist. Playing the players/the bounce is somewhat different. It boils down to dROI ~ 1.5ROI in first ~1.5 days. {nm} PRodQuanta Apr 28, 10:28

I'd short all 3. If they become popular, you can sell at the estimated delist early, otherwise, you will at least cover the 2%, likely more {nm} arf Apr 28, 22:41





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