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No - he's right. You're assuming that of today's trades, every trade that was not a flip was a buy. But in fact some traders were selling

Posted by: Roger More (a.k.a RogerMore) on Jul 01, 15:48 in response to samuel1212's post I was looking at the number of shares traded today on the...

the stock, but not flipping, and instead moving on to other investments.

Might be a dumb question jcunningham28 Jul 01, 06:56

Pure HSX Manipulation, like most other stocks. Just go with it and don't fight it. samuel1212 Jul 01, 07:15

And the 3rd one's OW was $50M+, so adjust of $135M+ if it can match it & the rollercoaster ride would be worth the wait. {nm} KalElFan Jul 01, 09:38

And the 3rd one's OW was $50M+, so adjust of $135M+ if it can match it & the rollercoaster ride would be worth the wait. {nm} KalElFan Jul 01, 09:38

Sorry for the double post. BTW all three JCKA were Fall releases, that third with the $50M+ OW Oct 15, 2010. {nm} KalElFan Jul 01, 09:41

This is as good a time as any to announce my new occasional blog, HSXsanity, which contains the answer to this and other frequently asked Roger More Jul 01, 07:20

Nice blog! {nm} slappydavid Jul 01, 07:31

very educational {nm} tealfan Jul 01, 09:41

Terrific. Now everytime someone asks a 'not so dumb' repeat question, we can just link your site. =+ {nm} grammar Jul 01, 07:35

Very nice. It loads and reads well on my phone. WTG! {nm} islander Jul 01, 07:40

Dont take this the wrong way, but what you wrote makes no sense to me, based on the shares held. Based on JACK5 there have been over 9 mil {nm} samuel1212 Jul 01, 07:40

rest of my post, shares traded today, including flipps this would account for 6 mil shares, 3 million still bought long and 3 mil short. the {nm} samuel1212 Jul 01, 07:42

rest of the post. The price should be fairly even with IPO price. samuel1212 Jul 01, 07:42

This is a good point to explain, and I'll edit the entry later. Remember that in this case flips = sells + shorts, so every time someone Roger More Jul 01, 07:50

also, i may be wrong, but phase, price range, and rate of trading affect price as well {nm} islander Jul 01, 07:51

I'm iffy on those details as well. Rate of trading definitely impacts the rate of price change, as I think "# of trades made yesterday" {nm} Roger More Jul 01, 07:56

no, your numbers for traded shares today are off alfpaulytd2012 Jul 01, 07:55

I was looking at the number of shares traded today on the stock page, so no I wasn't off samuel1212 Jul 01, 13:01

No - he's right. You're assuming that of today's trades, every trade that was not a flip was a buy. But in fact some traders were selling Roger More Jul 01, 15:48

meant JCKA4 not JACK5 samuel1212 Jul 01, 07:51

Thanks. {nm} ryancoke2 Jul 01, 08:19

Well written blog Roger!!! {nm} JDolphin Jul 01, 12:30

Another dumb question: Shouldn't this question be asked on the "Playing and Strategy" board? {nm} elchan Jul 01, 07:24

Isn't jackass a movie? {nm} jcunningham28 Jul 01, 07:55

Yes, but the question is not asking about the movie itself, but how the prices are calculated, which is play related, IMHO. {nm} elchan Jul 01, 08:11

How many shares were initially offfered.... LanceStorm22 Jul 01, 08:56





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