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Yes, what he did was wrong, no one is saying the contrary. Nonetheless, it was how the world behave at those times. Women were treated as...

Posted by: Filmstardust on Dec 05, 12:34 in response to RogerMore's post Though it wasn’t one joke, it was the way he...

toys, and people with power loved to push those bondaries. It is great to point out that it was (and in some cases stll is) BAD HABIT that societies have to erradicate, but to make a judgement of what happened over 30 years ago we have to see it in context, otherwise is pointless. 
Two generations ago, it was normal for a father or a mother to slap at their children when they were not obbey them. Nowadays those days are mostly gone, but no child would accuse their fathers for domestic violence.
I can give dozens of other examples. 

 

John Oliver puts Dustin Hoffman on the hot seat over sexual harassment allegations at a 20th anniv. screening of "Wag The Dog" slipping jimmy Dec 05, 00:30

'It never happened exactly like the women said it happened' seems to be a Common Sexual Predator Refrain. {nm} Captain Obvious Dec 05, 01:39

The accusation against Hoffman is ridiculous in the first place. {nm} Filmstardust Dec 05, 05:11

Seems like accusations are flying all over the place. I guess the ones without tangible evidence will be left standing. {nm} RollingThunder Dec 05, 05:37

Hoffman made an inappropriate sexual joke in a room full of people 30 years ago. That was wrong, but unfortunately, that was common Filmstardust Dec 05, 05:51

Though it wasn’t one joke, it was the way he behaved all the time, which included grabbing ass. RogerMore Dec 05, 07:24

and she wrote letters detailing numerous, repeated events at the time of their occurrence. Hoffman's take defies her account entirely {nm} slipping jimmy Dec 05, 07:38

Yes, what he did was wrong, no one is saying the contrary. Nonetheless, it was how the world behave at those times. Women were treated as... Filmstardust Dec 05, 12:34

Understood, but if someone can't acknowledge or apologise for past behaviour that is now recognise as bad, then what? {nm} RogerMore Dec 05, 13:43

I thought he made an apology. Maybe an apology isn't enough. But we can't have the same treatment as for scumbags like Weinstein. {nm} Filmstardust Dec 05, 14:44

He did, in an “I’m sorry, but that’s not who I am” way, and then followed up (per DL) with “it didn’t happen the way it was reported” {nm} RogerMore Dec 05, 15:26

the whole world absolutely did not behave that way. and she knew better enough even at 17 to say Hoffman was a "lech" and a "pig" {nm} slipping jimmy Dec 05, 14:41

I didn't say the whole world behave like that. I said it was common. {nm} Filmstardust Dec 05, 14:45

read the letters the girl wrote when she was 17 {nm} slipping jimmy Dec 05, 07:38





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