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I was stating my beliefs on a topic. How is that trolling?

Posted by: accountant_4_Jesus (a.k.a ) on Aug 08, 19:20 in response to Antibody's post Cars is used for transportation. The sole purpose of...

I realise not many people on here agree with my beliefs, but at the very least you should allow the discussion to take place. Whether or not we choose to agree after the discussion is up to each individual. I'm not forcing you to change what you believe, I'm simply stating the reasons for why I believe what I do. You can take that however you wish.

And unlike a lot of people I know (in my life in Australia, not on here, in case someone thinks I'm trying to attack them or whatever), I actually like to engage in discussions about almost everything, including controversial topics. I find that the more I talk with others, the better I am able to understand different points of view to my own, and I'm better able to relate to people who hold those different points of view. This doesn't happen when there's a "conspiracy of silence" where nobody talks about things for fear of being attacked for their views, or whatever other reason they may have. Because of that, I shouldn't have to (and I won't) apologize for talking about things that I find interesting. I will, however, say that whenever I do talk about things like this, I do not intend to "troll", just state my beliefs. If you (or anyone else, for that matter) gets upset with my views, please don't take it out on me and try to censor me by telling me to shut up or "stop trolling", just tell me the reasons why you disagree (which you have done here, and which I appreciate you doing). If, once you have done so, we can't come to an agreement of some sorts, we will just accept that we hold different points of view on the subject. But that's the beauty of discussion. You don't know what a person believes about something unless you talk with them about it, so how is not being allowed to talk about certain things helping in that regard? I don't know about you, DMac, but in spite of our disagreements over topics on here, I consider you a friend. Personally, I like to discuss lots of things with my friends, so I can see different points of view, and so that I learn more about them as a person. If any of these discussions that I have started have offended or upset you, I didn't mean for that to happen, and I apologize.

For those people who were arguing in favour of gun control laws, take a look at this (hopefully it works): accountant_4_Jesus Aug 07, 00:16

You live in Australia right? Homicide rates by firearm have gone down since their 1996 gun law. {nm} Antibody Aug 07, 10:02

Nutjobs,lunatics and the determined dishonest will always find a way to get weapons {nm} blaze223 Aug 07, 10:12

Everyone's innocent until they commit a crime. That isn't even logical. Jane_Citizen Aug 07, 13:21

That quote is scary. People with strange personality traits can be prevented can be discriminated upon? {nm} elchan Aug 07, 14:19

No, the point is that they can't. So you don't know which person is necessarily going to be the one who (cont) Jane_Citizen Aug 07, 22:51

I'm in the process of getting my FOID Card wroberson Aug 08, 01:45

I believe we need to control what kind of weapons should be so easily accessible. However, I'm not for gun control in general. elchan Aug 07, 14:21

Ok, I'll try to respond to all of your comments: accountant_4_Jesus Aug 07, 16:11

Actually they have laws against some kinds of cars. They don't allow spikes on your wheel hub caps, and battering rams on your bumper. elchan Aug 07, 19:38

I prefer the freedom from being potentially threatened with a gun. Jane_Citizen Aug 07, 20:27

Chicago has very strict laws against handguns. They sound really safe from being potentially threatened with a gun. {nm} Tanker Aug 08, 15:13

Supreme Court Ruling: Police have ZERO responsibility to save the life of a "citizen" DMac needs to read this IM -more- arf Aug 10, 00:05

The above is why the words "To Protect and Serve" no longer appear on police vehicles. {nm} arf Aug 10, 00:10

Cars is used for transportation. The sole purpose of assulat rifles and handguns is to kill people. Antibody Aug 08, 08:29

Nope. Target practice, protect livestock from attacks, protection from all enemies, foreign and domestic. Tanker Aug 08, 15:17

Guns were invented to kill people, period. You can still have hunting rifles for hunting and protecting livestock. {nm} Antibody Aug 08, 15:28

Ted Kennedy has killed more people with his car than I have with my handgun. Which, BTW, I used to prevent a crime. Tanker Aug 08, 15:33

It's laughable how you equate cars and guns. Antibody Aug 08, 15:38

Apparently comprehension is a problem. You said guns were invented to kill people, period. I've never used mine to kill anyone. Tanker Aug 08, 15:48

They are called car ACCIDENTS. You haven't used your gun yet. How many crimes have you prevented? {nm} Antibody Aug 08, 15:57

I used my gun in the prevention of a crime. I have never used it kill anyone. Despite your claims about what a gun's intended purpose is. Tanker Aug 08, 16:03

So you have actually shown a gun to someone about to commit a crime against you, who then ran away at the sight of a gun? {nm} Antibody Aug 08, 16:08

Hard to believe, huh? I didn't even have to fire a warning shot. A most excellent deterent. Responsible law-abiding citizens should try it. Tanker Aug 08, 16:17

Somehow, i doubt it has ever happened. {nm} Antibody Aug 08, 16:32

It might come as shock to you, but I really don't give a rat's red **** what you believe. Tanker Aug 08, 16:50

In DMac's defense, guns were invented to kill (people &\| animals). That doesn't mean that is all they are used for, however. {nm} PRodNano Aug 08, 18:10

DMac said the sole purpose of assault rifles and handguns is to kill people, an uniformed, demonstrably false statement. {nm} Tanker Aug 09, 03:33

Yes,. that's what they are designed for. Your feeling of protection comes from the threat of bodily harm from those guns. {nm} Antibody Aug 09, 10:03

I was stating my beliefs on a topic. How is that trolling? accountant_4_Jesus Aug 08, 19:20

What about transferable weapons and destructive devices? wroberson Aug 08, 20:08

While I'm here, vist, "The Gun Store" In Las Vegas. It's a trip... wroberson Aug 08, 20:10

Yeah, I was there, and it was a hoot. No wonder people own these assault rifles. But, I still think they should stay at the range. {nm} elchan Aug 10, 15:31

Chat about TVStocks® listed on the Television Stock Exchange™, sports, music, politics, or anything else on your mind. Tanker Aug 09, 03:38

Starting a thread with a political cartoon that attacks those that disagree with you on a controversial topic is trolling for comments. {nm} Antibody Aug 09, 10:01

Actually handguns can be used for target shooting, however once can argue that the assault rifle is purpose built to kill. elchan Aug 09, 18:25

My 2 cents (a long post) baronblacksheep Aug 09, 06:27

While I disagree with your points of view, without free and open discussion of issues no problem will ever be solved. {nm} Tanker Aug 09, 07:49

http://www2.tbo.com/news/news/2012/aug/09/7/videos-show-pasco-armed-robberies-at-convenience-s-ar-459023/ {nm} arf Aug 09, 16:07

http://www.guncite.com/gun_control_gcdguse.html -more inside- arf Aug 09, 16:10

I've read the link (more inside) baronblacksheep Aug 10, 02:03

As to the island - They'd need heavier weaponry to hold onto their land from outside forces. There are no perfect worlds, sadly. {nm} arf Aug 10, 10:25





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