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Boldin racked up those stats thanks to being a WR2 while Fitz got double teams.

Posted by: dubord.s on Aug 28, 11:05 in response to TJNFL1's post Difference between Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin is...

Stats are like SI's Swimsuit edition - they show lots, but they don't show everything.

https://fifthdown.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/03/16/scientific-football-boldin-vs-fitzgerald-and-to-vs-lee-evans/?mcubz=1

Delve down, and here's what you find out:

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What I found is that while their overall yards per attempt totals (YPA) were equal and their vertical YPA quite similar, there was one area in which Fitzgerald was miles ahead of Boldin – YPA when facing tough cornerbacks. When Fitz faced an average or good corner in 2007 (good being defined as allowing a YPA equal to or less than 7.0 yards, average being between 7-9 yards), he posted a YPA of 8.7. Boldin, on the other hand, gained only 6.3 YPA. To put those in perspective, if a receiver posts an overall YPA of 8.7, he will typically rank in the top third of the league, while a YPA of 6.3 would typically rank in the bottom 10.

The analysis also showed that Boldin put up more yards when facing non-cornerbacks (i.e. linebackers, safeties, when uncovered under a zone defense, etc.) than he did when facing cornerbacks, and Fitzgerald was the exact opposite. Add the two findings together and it shows that Fitzgerald is a matchup-buster and Boldin isn’t."

Is WR Anquan Boldin a first ballot Hall of Famer? 202 games, 1,076 receptions, 13,779 yards, 82 Touchdowns. TJNFL1 Aug 21, 13:16

Not in my book. dubord.s Aug 21, 13:31

9th all time in receptions, 14th all time in receiving yards, 23rd all time in receiving touchdowns. TJNFL1 Aug 21, 14:40

He's got numbers for sure, but WR numbers are so skewed dubord.s Aug 21, 21:48

List of players already in the NFL Hall of Fame with lower statistical totals..... TJNFL1 Aug 24, 23:13

AGAIN - the numbers are totally skewed, so comparing his stats to guys in the 70s is idiotic. {nm} dubord.s Aug 25, 07:29

Michael Irvin played in the 70's? {nm} TJNFL1 Aug 25, 09:57

Nope. But he was a much better WR than Boldin was at any point in his career. dubord.s Aug 25, 10:29

Hope your not just saying that because of the rings. Yes, Irvin was on a better team. TJNFL1 Aug 25, 22:45

Nope. Saying that because he was the best WR on great teams. dubord.s Aug 26, 22:30

Difference between Larry Fitzgerald and Anquan Boldin is marginal. TJNFL1 Aug 28, 02:10

Boldin racked up those stats thanks to being a WR2 while Fitz got double teams. dubord.s Aug 28, 11:05

Thanks. Read your information, and agree. Although Smith and Witten probably helped Irvin some, Bolden did see a lot of linebackers. TJNFL1 Aug 29, 01:06

Between those two, I think Moss 1st. More impactful/notoriety as 'uncoverable'. But both probably get in. dubord.s Aug 29, 09:46

If voters can overlook the Moss end zone "pulling down of the pants", and the Owens spitting in opponents face, then agree. {nm} TJNFL1 Aug 29, 13:24

The 'Mooning' was stupid, but who cares (and I'm a Packers fan). T.O.'s spike on the star was more of an issue. {nm} dubord.s Aug 30, 09:10

Did that offend anyone other than Cowboys fans? {nm} TJNFL1 Sep 01, 00:49





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