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Couple of IPO suggestions

Posted by: Tallwonder on Jan 01, 23:08

1) Even for the most popular movies (ie Marvel ones) 70m shares for IPO is stretching things a bit. Active user nos (even with some people having multiple accounts, some of which - esp newer ones - don't have the capacity to buy (much) into them) need to be considered for the same.

2) Just like an IPO's price starts rising pre-IPO if higher than IPO qty shares have been bought, equivalence/fairness would only come about if IPO shares which are shorted beyond IPO qty (eg there are many IPOs with 20m shares on offer & have 22-25m shorts pre-IPO) start going down in price immediately & not wait for IPO midnight to be crossed. This would also remove the long standing issue of an IPO having (say) 1m longs & 25m shorts but post midnight someone using multiple accounts to put 300K/450K long first out the gate & the share/movie moving up despite everyone else shorting it (I know you increased weights the last time I pointed this out ~1.5-2 years back but that just means more accounts need to be used to game the system/other players).
If it works one way (up), it ought to in the other direction (down) as well.
Just to elucidate usingĀ  above eg - if the IPO had 20m shares, when shorts cross 20m pre-IPO the price starts going down immediately. (this won't stop someone from gaming the system at midnight but if he does it at say $14.25 instead of $15 IPO price at least all those who put their money & slept off or whatever will still not lose money immediately inspite of being on the right side of the call in terms of numbers).

* For anyone saying IPOs don't go down in price pre-IPO they don't go up either. This is the only way to have a balanced system akin to GMPs (grey market premiums pre-IPOs which work both ways & you see the effect with listing price at the immediate time of IPOs going live).

Couple of IPO suggestions Tallwonder Jan 01, 23:08

Point 2 will also solve another problem Tallwonder Jan 01, 23:25

Request Tallwonder Jan 01, 23:28

Its been (silently) made clear that multi-account players gaming the system will not be curbed. {nm} DTravel Jan 02, 04:44

Everybody can see who is Trading at RESET. PUKE OUT the Evidence. Or STFU with your SLIMY SICKENING UNEDUCATED BARF-PUKE BARFOLA. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 11:22

Legitimate players have no way of seeing what trades OTHER players have made. {nm} DTravel Jan 02, 13:54

Everybody can see WHO is Trading. Please STFU about that 'LEGITIMATE PLAYERS' BULLSH*T. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 15:58

How do you see what trades another player has made? {nm} DTravel Jan 02, 18:31

Everybody can see WHO has Traded & how many Shares they have Traded. If you have any Trading Concerns, please Contact HSX about that. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 23:02

You have said that multiple times but failed to provide any proof. HOW do you see who has traded and how many shares of a given stock? DTravel Jan 03, 01:45

Pay Attention - COMMUNITY - HIGHEST TRADING VOLUME TODAY - Link Attached. Everybody can see WHO is Trading & Number of Shares Traded. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 03, 05:14

There is NO Issue with RESET Trading. There is NO Concern with RESET Trading. Some Uneducated Traders Fail to Understand how HSX Works. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 03, 05:16

These Posts of yours are just the latest in your Incessant Repeated Uneducated Casting of Unfounded Aspersions with your BARF-PUKE BARFOLA. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 03, 05:20

I haven't accused you of anything. And I'm not the one spewing invectives and shouting. You posted that you could see what trades other DTravel Jan 03, 18:00

WRONG. Never Implied anything of the sort. You can see the Daily Trades & Shares Traded. Any Concerns, Document & Forward to HSX. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 04, 08:36

Daily Traders & Shares Traded. Any Concerns, Document & Forward to HSX. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 04, 08:38

What "League"? {nm} DTravel Jan 04, 17:29

Dtravel, where is YOUR proof? {nm} Antibody Jan 03, 08:37

If you have any Trading Concerns, please Document them & Forward them to HSX Management. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 16:00

DTravel I'm not advocating banning multiple a/c's (its impossible) just tweaks to the system to mitigate some potential fallouts Tallwonder Jan 03, 00:41

Please STFU about this 'GAMING THE SYSTEM' BULLSH*T. How is it done? Please provide ONE (1) Specific Example of your Nonsense. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 03, 00:51

What are these 'PERCEIVED INJUSTICES'. Please Identify them. At a minimum, please Identify ONE (1) PERCEIVED INJUSTICE. .... Waiting. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 03, 01:00

BatSh*t Crazy Thinking - 'PERCEIVED INJUSTICES' Unfounded 'GAMING THE SYSTEM' - Unfounded M/S Price Manipulation - Trading M/S at PRE-IPO. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 03, 05:23

Wrong. Multi-accounts manipulating the system are not tolerated on HSX and will be banned. {nm} Antibody Jan 03, 08:35

I am glad to hear that. {nm} DTravel Jan 03, 18:00

What a Bunch of Scurrilous Garbage. You CAN'T Trade M/S PRE-IPO. Your Spew is Nothing but BARF-PUKE BARFOLA. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 09:50

There is NO Evidence of Anybody 'GAMING THE SYSTEM' at RESET. Nor is there any Evidence of Multiple Accounts Engaging in M/S Manipulation. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 09:51

If you have any Evidence of Multiple Accounts Engaging in Manipulation, PUKE IT OUT. Your SLIMY Posts are BARF-PUKE SICKENING. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 09:53

A Dizzying Display of HSX Ignorance & Sheer STOOPIDITY. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Jan 02, 09:55

And that (apparently) concludes the presentation made on behalf of Omega House (with Dean Wormer's enthusiastic approval) . . . {nm} SenJohnBlutarsky Jan 05, 07:45





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