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Posted by: islander (a.k.a YoungFund) on Mar 18, 16:00 in response to RotoHockeyYTD2013's post Not Correct - PARAX has a StarBond Investment.

so lets do a hypothetical:

Added to fund description page: "Managers are allowed to invest in one share of their own fund"

OK sounds good right?

but some manager will ask if they can short a share of their own stock...

ok so lets update the page: "Managers are allowed to hold long one share of their own fund. Managers are not allowed to short their own fund."

OK a little wordy, but sounds good...

but now a manager is asking if they can invest in other funds....

update it again then: "Managers are allowed to hold long one share of their own fund. Managers are not allowed to short their own fund, or make any investment in other funds."

There, that should do it right?

but a player now is asking why a fund is investing in a films call.

lets update: "Managers are allowed to hold long one share of their own fund. Managers are not allowed to short their own fund, or make any investment in other funds. Managers may invest in the OW, call and put of their funds alllowed films"

but what about starbonds?

"Managers are allowed to hold long one share of their own fund. Managers are not allowed to short their own fund, or make any investment in other funds. Managers may invest in the OW, call and put of their funds alllowed films. Investments in Starbonds are not alllowed by studio funds."

what about nominoptions?

ok, lets update...

wait! awardoptions? blockbuster warrants?

update...

Can we play classic cash? learn and earn? movie mogul?

"Managers are allowed..."

What if I run Sonyx, can i invest in tv stocks produced by Sony television?

so....now we have a 1000 word section of impenetrable legalese

but it should take care of it, right?

well, no...a manager can choose to break the rule, or not make themself aware of the rule, and thus buy more than 1 share, or short their own fund, or invest in other funds, or buy starbonds, or... because there is no mechanism to prevent such trades.

so along comes some trader wondering why Fund X is investing in other funds...and, not happy that the rule isnt being followed, requests that a software upgrade be made to the hsx system so that illegal trades are blocked before they can be processed.

so now hsx invests in a programmer to add said functionality.

but now others cant make legal trades in their personal ports

so now programmer is brought back, who determines that the main source code cant handle such a function, and recommends a whole new hsx designed from scratch.

so now over several months of beta testing, players are becoming frustrated with slow loads and leaving the site

so now hsx shuts down...

problem solved, right?

:P

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Starting a blog about funds! First up is DISNX whitewalls Mar 17, 22:26

A Movie Fund Blog - what an excellent idea - Kudos for Thinking outside the Box. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 00:22

DISNX should expand its Mandate to include StarBonds & Derivatives. Other Funds are investing in those. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 00:27

Why are Movie Funds investing in themselves when they have no Mandate to do so? {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 00:29

funds have been allowed to hold (1) share of their own fund. anymore than that is wrong and should be pointed out politely islander Mar 18, 06:59

Then this should be identified in their Mandate. It's a simple inclusion. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 14:05

Why is PARAX investing in other Movie Funds when it has no Mandate to do so? {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 00:30

If Studio Funds want on invest in StarBonds & Derivatives, their Mandate should say so. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 00:32

starbonds are not allowed to be held by studio funds. this should be pointed out to the admin. some derivs are allowed islander Mar 18, 07:06

It has nothing to do with 'uncertainty'. The Rules should be clear and should be followed. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 14:04

none of the studio funds are holding starbonds, & none hold more than 1 share of a studio fund, so no problems w/ the rules {nm} lapuckfan Mar 18, 14:20

Not Correct - PARAX has a StarBond Investment. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 15:21

> islander Mar 18, 16:00

The PARAX fund manager probably just made a trade in their fund when they thought they were in their port. {nm} RogerMore Mar 18, 16:04

I was thinking the exact same thing. It has happened to me at least twice, so it's not unlikely... slappydavid Mar 18, 16:14

It was a Statement of Fact. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 17:07

I didn't mean you in this case, I was just suggesting a possible general way of doing it... {nm} slappydavid Mar 18, 20:01

All Righty. Thanks. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2013 Mar 18, 23:14

And... Issue II, FOXX is up. whitewalls Mar 18, 01:27

Thanks for your analysis of the FOXX fund CButera Mar 26, 16:55

There will be a follow-up with the new format coming soom, most likely in mid-April after I am back from Vacation. {nm} whitewalls Mar 26, 17:30

Looks good... some thoughts inside. RogerMore Mar 18, 08:33

re: the monthly fund report, yeah it got to be more work than i was interested in. would be nice if someone wanted to do it islander Mar 18, 08:51

Thanks for the input Roger... whitewalls Mar 18, 12:49

You can put Adsense. You can make extra cash. {nm} mike255 Mar 18, 12:21





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