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That's the business, second gary. Lionsgate has dated three Hunger Games movies, ALVN3 limped to $100M but has a date for the 4th . . .

Posted by: eallensbp on Jul 28, 20:39 in response to second gary's post p.s. Again, the studio doesn't think it has, inasmuch as...

You should chat with the Weinsteins about the reliability of release dates. I don't think they're reliable indicators of anything but the hubris of the studios. All it takes to change this is one RIPD sized flop and that franchise is done, release dates and all.

RS 2 Guns high 30s Smurfs mid to high 30s {nm} notfabio Jul 28, 18:22

Thanks notfabio, finally RS feels within the ballpark. How long will it last. My WOLV2 predict went to hell but not by much. Onward to 2GUNS {nm} eallensbp Jul 28, 19:23

I like 2GUNS for $38-$42M; heh, I actually am serious about my SMRF2 predict of mid-20s OW, MAYBE $35M five-day. Maybe. {nm} eallensbp Jul 28, 19:26

I was amazed at the three-day 35.6M opening of SMURF in July 2011, and impressed by its 142M domestic total. second gary Jul 28, 19:29

hmmm, Smurfs opened to 35M two years ago and had a 4 multiplier from OW thru the domestic run. lobogotti Jul 28, 19:34

I fully expect an Alvin-like following. A sub 30M 5day I assume would be considered a failure by the studio. {nm} lobogotti Jul 28, 19:37

Not this time, lobo. Franchise fatigue has already set in. I keep looking for signs that SMRF2 will overperform, and am coming up empty. {nm} eallensbp Jul 28, 19:59

will be interesting to see. I really can't stand mid-week openings, but like I said I'll be shocked at a sub 40 5da. lobogotti Jul 28, 20:05

Yep. Right you are. And, I am with you on mid-week openings, don't like them much myself. Throws my predict off a little. {nm} eallensbp Jul 28, 20:17

I have not seen the first one, but what makes you say that "franchise fatigue has already set in"? second gary Jul 28, 20:25

p.s. Again, the studio doesn't think it has, inasmuch as SMRF3 has a 2015 release date. Smurfs vs. Superman summer. {nm} second gary Jul 28, 20:26

Smurfs vs Superman vs Avengers 2 vs Star Wars 7 vs Terminator Reboot vs Independence Day 2 vs Pirates of the Caribbean 5 {nm} RazorHawk Jul 28, 20:34

now that's some competition! Never been a bigger summer than 2015 is shaping. {nm} lobogotti Jul 28, 20:38

That's the business, second gary. Lionsgate has dated three Hunger Games movies, ALVN3 limped to $100M but has a date for the 4th . . . eallensbp Jul 28, 20:39

I would distinguish between a tentpole having a release date 24 months out, and a non-tentpole (like SMRF3) having one 24 mos. out. second gary Jul 28, 21:28

Great post, second gary. In SMRF2's case--and, BTW, I'm obviously not a fanboy, either--the formula plot will repel as opposed to attract. {nm} eallensbp Jul 28, 22:14

Like lobogotti said, we could be in for a surprise, but I am looking at lots of indicators now, and none of them hints at "breakout". {nm} eallensbp Jul 28, 22:16

I wouldn't call $133 limping to $100 but I see your point. {nm} austpow Jul 28, 21:39

second gary, you touched upon the problem with SMRF2. "It aims to be formulaic . . . and succeeds". Ergo, diminished returns. eallensbp Jul 28, 20:33

On the slim chance SMRF2 overperforms, it's frontloading. So I'd expect massive 2nd wkend drops, on the level of DVNSD. {nm} eallensbp Jul 28, 20:04

This is either highly irresponsible or just plain stupid. No major release kids film has ever had close to a drop like DVNSD 76.2% islander Jul 29, 09:25

Tagging [2guns] high 30s, [SMRF2] mid to high 30s {nm} karspov Jul 28, 20:25





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