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It will be interesting to see how M:I plays out. $290 million budget & last one did $220 in US.

Posted by: jonjon on Jul 02, 10:22 in response to Antibody's post Same could be said for Top Gun, only 5 years younger.

Top Gun 2 had some things working for it to catch lightning in a bottle: pent up demand, after Covid & for a sequel. TG1 was a monster in 1986, no other pix within $60 million of it for the year, TG1 at $176 vs Crocodile Dundee at $116 at #2. The release window was perfect - Memorial Day weekend & week 4 of Dr. Strange as the only competition. It helped that TG2 looked amazing on film and is one of the few movies that should be seen in a theater. It is a goofy retread of TG1 & Star Wars, stay on target Tom Cruise, but extremly well done. It is an easy watch with amazing air sequences & effects. TG2 was also given a long and full theatrical release. I do not recall a streaming date being set upon it's immediate release, therefore not Nancy Kerrigan'ing it's box office legs. I expect Disney+ to probably announce the streaming date for Indy 5 before the last sparkler from July 4 is extinguished. Hollywood's short streaming windows are killing box office receipts.

Cruise has hit a wall before, reinventing himself with the M:I series. Remember, the M:I series was almost dead after parts 1 & 2. Woo directed M:I 2 left a sour taste in fans mouths. Added with Cruise's "odd" behavior, this was a recipe that almost killed the franchise when M:I 3 way underperformed. Minority Report & Collateral were amazing, but the respective box office receipts were lower than expectations or budgets. In additon, remember for a decade that Cruise had Valkyrie, Lions for Lambs, Oblivion, Edge of Tomorrow, Knight & Day, and (gulp) The Mummy or Rock of Ages. 

Indy 5 was not bad at all, but not great. I give it a B-. It does get slow in parts and is rather somber. Mangold is what I consider a "safe" director. His films look good and attract talent, but since 3:10 to Yuma and Girl, Interrupted there is always something missing. I still argue Copland is decent, yet one of the most overhyped movies in the past 25 years. His films tend to be good but not amazing. Yes, Walk the Line & Ford vs Ferrari included.

The fun is largely missing in Indy 5, which I think was on purpose to avoid the silliness of Indy 4. I wanted to walk out of Indy 4 multiple times, but endured to hate watch it because I had spent good $$ & had a large popcorn and drink combo. That abomination almost destroyed the memories of my childhood. Crystal Skull's backlash is well deserved and a major factor in Indy 5's box office. The budget should also never spiraled to $300 million. 

JATINDER: From early looks of it, $19M SAT for #IndianaJones . 2 days total of $43M. Weekend expected to be around $57.5-58. (630pm Sat PST) notfabio Jul 01, 18:32

yikes {nm} Moviesnob Jul 01, 18:53

HSX wrong again! {nm} Moviesnob Jul 01, 18:54

shoulda dumped it to Plus, Bob my mate paul Jul 01, 18:56

D+ Day is likely in early September I'd expect them to hold it to then ala THOR4. (July 8th - September 8th in that example) {nm} notfabio Jul 01, 19:01

GOTG3 physical media date is August 1st which I anticipate will also be the D+ date. {nm} notfabio Jul 01, 19:04

TOP GUN 2 continues to mystify {nm} Moviesnob Jul 01, 19:07

No matter what it does but had way better reviews, no divisive sequel, significantly less competition and a lead who doesn't need CGI notfabio Jul 01, 19:22

Remind me how many people picked TOP GUN #1 last summer {nm} Moviesnob Jul 02, 11:36

Heroic character allowed to be heroic, man allowed to be competent and masculine, young men repeatedly go see it, a wonder for the ages {nm} Fitch3k Jul 01, 23:10

Yes its a cliche. Pt is the cliche isn't working (as well) for most movies now (vs recent past) so why did it for the few (incl TG2) it did? Tallwonder Jul 02, 01:35

Literally the exact opposite happen. The longer it played the more women went to see it {nm} Moviesnob Jul 02, 11:37

So women like strong male characters too? Good. Time to bring them back and end this incompetent male + hyper aggressive female experiment {nm} Fitch3k Jul 02, 13:26

yikes x2 {nm} Moviesnob Jul 02, 13:41

fo what its worth i grew up with indy and owned the vhs sneak Jul 02, 04:15

The nostalgia for more Indiana Jones already happened in 2008. {nm} Antibody Jul 02, 08:30

and nobody was particularly nostalgic for it then, even before it turned out meh {nm} my mate paul Jul 02, 12:50

so will INDY5 2nd weekend be worse than FLASH? I think INDY5 will be on fumes too next weekend worse than FLASH. {nm} Baron_Darcon2017 Jul 01, 22:59

Most of the main movie goers were not even born when INDI1 came out, have no history with the movie = less interest. {nm} Flash Jul 02, 07:42

Same could be said for Top Gun, only 5 years younger. {nm} Antibody Jul 02, 08:50

It will be interesting to see how M:I plays out. $290 million budget & last one did $220 in US. jonjon Jul 02, 10:22

studios have mostly come to Jesus on streaming alone being an unsustainable model. not sure they’re in the same place yet on collapsing the my mate paul Jul 02, 13:55

still a work in progress but we'll hopefully get there {nm} Moviesnob Jul 02, 14:02





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