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Horrible. It will be done through a tax which means we'll be paying. Why should I have to pay for other people to get health insurance? {nm}

Posted by: MontyBurnz (a.k.a jmrickey) on Jun 29, 15:28 in response to mike255's post Usa Supreme court Require every american citizen must...

Usa Supreme court Require every american citizen must Health insurance mike255 Jun 29, 15:04

Horrible. It will be done through a tax which means we'll be paying. Why should I have to pay for other people to get health insurance? MontyBurnz Jun 29, 15:28

you do now; ever been to an ER at a county hospital? {nm} daveart Jun 29, 16:11

No no no...You do not get it. If you choose not to buy insurance, the penalty is higher taxes. If you have, or buy health insurance, in BUY StarBondFund Jun 29, 17:25

Yes, my employer provides insurance. But why should people be forced to pay for something they don't use? MontyBurnz Jun 29, 19:11

needing medical attention is not something you plan for {nm} Moviesnob Jun 29, 19:15

Part of "forcing" everyone to have health insurance (or to pay a tax if they choose to forgo) is a concession to the health industry. Paul2k Jun 29, 19:27

With more people on insurance, good luck getting into see a doctor when you need to. MontyBurnz Jun 29, 20:46

Also, it is going to allow the government to outlaw any food item they want, such as further regulation of sweet items soda, candy, etc. MontyBurnz Jun 29, 22:20

Movie theatres will go out of business when the products they sell in order to stay in business are outlawed because they're not healthy {nm} MontyBurnz Jun 29, 22:24

This will not/ can not happen (and I think you know that). PRodNano Jun 30, 10:06

Supply will always meet demand. If this is the case, it will create more jobs. {nm} PRodNano Jun 30, 09:58

Also, the bill also stipulates that doctors will start getting paid on how effectively they treat their patients, not by how many they see. PRodNano Jun 30, 10:08

There's a wrinkle in that supply/demand logic. You can't just churn out more doctors. It takes years and lots of money to create a doctor. Paul2k Jun 30, 10:48

Good points Paul. However, I was more refering to allowing more students into medical schools. I believe the amount that they let in PRodNano Jun 30, 12:31

This is true. In Canada, we have a hard time getting find a general practitioner. It's easier to go to a clinic. But specialists are elchan Jun 30, 14:32

In your life time, there's a high probability that you *will* use health insurance. Most likely you will need it when you are older elchan Jun 30, 07:53

I'm not disagreeing with the verdict, but the problem is, the court decided it wasnt a tax when it agreed to hear the case Moviesnob Jun 29, 19:17

basically, the court said its not a tax for purposes of the anti-injunction act, but is a tax that congress can levy it. pretty weird {nm} Moviesnob Jun 29, 19:23

I agree with universal health care. This is what separates us from animals. The social pact. elchan Jun 30, 07:57

+1 :) {nm} Jane_Citizen Jun 30, 14:20

For those who don't know what the bill is about and don't want to read all the literature, inside is the logic: PRodNano Jun 30, 10:12

Not sure that's any better than what we have now. Actually, sounds worse. Here's why... MontyBurnz Jun 30, 10:25

Medicaid/Medicare isn't going away with the ACA, so that local aid you got should stay in place. I'm not entirely sure on the workings of Paul2k Jun 30, 10:40

I didn't have MedicAid or Medicare. What I had was called Medical Assistance (MA). I believe it's different than those you mentioned. {nm} MontyBurnz Jun 30, 11:39

It's possible that Medical Assistance is just the local/state name for Medicaid. Medicaid is the federal name, but the funds from it are Paul2k Jun 30, 12:05

Does the new law require employers to offer health insurance to every employee, regardless of whether they're full or part time? {nm} MontyBurnz Jun 30, 12:25

Business with over 50 full-time employees must offer coverage to those employees or pay a fine. Not sure about part time. {nm} PRodNano Jun 30, 12:39

Is there a certain standard employer-offered insurance must meet that is part of the law? {nm} MontyBurnz Jun 30, 13:07

I'm not sure, but I assume it has to be at least as good as the coverage that the government offers. {nm} PRodNano Jun 30, 13:10

I played Russian roulette once and didn't get killed. Thus, banning Russian roulette games for people's safety is not logical? PRodNano Jun 30, 12:46

If it doesn't work for you, you probably make too much money yet don't have a job that offers health insurance, a pretty rare occurence. MontyBurnz Jun 30, 12:55

That's actually quite hilarious, because that doesn't describe any one of our situations :) {nm} PRodNano Jun 30, 13:03

i've worked four jobs in the past seven years that rendered me ineligble for Medicaid but did not offer health care benefits to me {nm} mickpix Jun 30, 13:58

More in depth (yet still bulleted) info on the bill PRodNano Jun 30, 12:38





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