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Roger, as re: below, i can seperate what people do and an actual belief system, my point was this was the president

Posted by: forlorne on Oct 29, 06:33 in response to Roger More's post I am sure you know this already, but someone who follows...

of a country publicly praying for the destruction of all jews. are you so sure this ISN'T what the faith really says?

What is a Christian Fundamentalist? websch01ar Oct 29, 05:02

Jerry Falwell & Pat Robertson are two examples. Link attached. RotoHockeyYTD2012 Oct 29, 05:41

I am sure you know this already, but someone who follows a literal reading of the Bible. (So, for example, someone who believes Roger More Oct 29, 05:55

I am a Southern Baptist and we believe the Bible to be the inherent Word of God. So I qualify? {nm} websch01ar Oct 29, 06:08

I don't know. Do some research into fundamentalism and figure out how closely they align with your beliefs, I guess. Roger More Oct 29, 06:27

fundamentalism as defined by packer varies greatly from fundamentalism as defined by robertson. {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 06:35

I could care less about Robertson and Falwell. But ppl here should know that websch01ar Oct 29, 07:23

Let's not forget that this whole discussion originated from labelling and poorly constructed argument. Roger More Oct 29, 07:57

I've not been intolerant. websch01ar Oct 29, 08:07

I'm seeing a lot of "don't label us" and not a lot of "don't label them". You haven't said anything intolerant (and neither has forlorne) Roger More Oct 29, 08:30

think of it terms of a spectrum of beliefs. Fundamentalism can be defined as those who believe in one extreme side of the spectrum Moviesnob Oct 29, 12:10

I hear ya, but some use the term as a slur. That is the part I take issue with. websch01ar Oct 29, 12:57

why is belief in a specific set of facts "extreme"? {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 14:06

something has to be. on a scale of 1-10, the two extremes are 1 and 10. There's no connotation to the word "extreme" in this context {nm} Moviesnob Oct 29, 14:44

Roger, as re: below, i can seperate what people do and an actual belief system, my point was this was the president forlorne Oct 29, 06:33

Roger, as re: below, i can seperate what people do and an actual belief system, my point was this was the president forlorne Oct 29, 06:33

Roger, as re: below, i can seperate what people do and an actual belief system, my point was this was the president forlorne Oct 29, 06:33

I only posted that once! {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 06:34

I saw in an earlier discussion, you were able to differentiate your own faith from the Crusades and the Spanish Inquisition. Why don't you Roger More Oct 29, 06:39

I do. That's not my point, it is that this currently appears to currently be mainstream practice in much of the world i.e. forlorne Oct 29, 07:21

Bad people doing bad things. And just like the Crusades, the situation in Egypt is also more complex than many realise. Roger More Oct 29, 07:33

The president is from the Muslim Brotherhood. They represent one party, not the whole Egypt, and certainly not the whole Muslim world. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 10:08

The president of a country does not represent a country? {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 11:45

Country, not religion. Reagan called USSR an Evil Empire. GW called Iran, Iraq and North Korea 'Axis of Evil'. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 11:46

are you really equating calling north korea evil with publicly praying for the destruction of all jews? {nm} forlorne Oct 29, 14:10

Morsi didn't say it. Many Arabs are against the creation of Israel in Palenstine and Egypt has lost wars to Israel. Antibody Oct 29, 14:20

There are moderates and secularists in Egypt who don't agree with the Muslim Brotherhood ledership. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 11:49

True. But, who elected the leadership? {nm} edzep - Port Monkey! Oct 29, 12:40

egypt is trying to move to democracy, lets give them the benefit of the doubt for now it wont be a dictarship Moviesnob Oct 29, 12:44

Does President Obama represent all your views? {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 13:00

Again missing the point. If our president publicly prayed for the destruction of all muslims, i and the entire world would be screaming. forlorne Oct 29, 14:05

I'm not making excuses. It is bad, but the point is it does not represent all Muslims. {nm} Antibody Oct 29, 14:31

I think you have to be patient with Egypt and the other Arab Spring countries. RogerMore Oct 29, 13:03

The MF is more a loosely organized group that a single party in a nation. websch01ar Oct 29, 13:00

Obviously, your IM is America's prerogative, but the State Department would be looking at issues like "is the aid money going to things we RogerMore Oct 29, 13:16

Personally, I am all for closing foreign military bases and restricting aid whether financial or military. {nm} websch01ar Oct 30, 05:02

The term was used re xians in response to liberal theologians, to mean those who hold certain beliefs to be factual forlorne Oct 29, 06:28

i disagree with the "literal reading" definition, what does a literal reading mean? there are many portions that are forlorne Oct 29, 06:30

I can see your point here. {nm} Roger More Oct 29, 06:43

could someone here just say it is really bad for the president of egypt to do that, instead of making excuses and obfuscations? forlorne Oct 29, 14:08

You mean like I did here, yesterday? RogerMore Oct 29, 14:25

(Friday, I mean) {nm} RogerMore Oct 29, 14:25





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