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NRA on news right now calling for armed guards at schools. What do you think? I agree with this idea. {nm} elchan Dec 21, 08:23

In related news, NRA calling for children to get accustomed to a police state from birth. BSmurf Dec 21, 08:27

They don't need to be posted everywhere. Just knowing there are qualified armed guards at the building will help deter then people. {nm} elchan Dec 21, 08:33

Who is going to pay for it? The NRA? Who is going to pay the increased school insurance premiums from having an armed presence on site? BSmurf Dec 21, 08:36

Is there a price that should not be paid, if it deters future carnage? Insurance might actually go down, not up. elchan Dec 21, 08:44

statistically speaking, your kids are safer in school from a gunman than pretty much anywhere else they could be. BSmurf Dec 21, 08:53

kids are many magnitudes of probability more likely to get shot in a home containing guns than a school without them BSmurf Dec 21, 08:57

First where are these stats? Second it's a bad argument that because we can't get rid of all crazies, that we can attempt to for some. elchan Dec 21, 09:15

Museums, day care centers, restaurants, movie theaters, malls are all places kids artificially come together. Armed guards at McD's? BSmurf Dec 21, 09:37

I don't think that media is blowing it out of proportion, when 26 children are gunned down needlessly. Lack of media coverage ... elchan Dec 21, 10:36

wrong wrong wrong! News outlets sensationalize it for ratings, nothing more. They are NOT altruistic, and contribute to more of these BSmurf Dec 21, 11:52

Actually, if you REALLY wanted to free up some police to do this short-term - legalize marijuana and stop the 'Drug War" BSmurf Dec 21, 12:19

So the stats on school deaths stopped in 2007. So add 15 from Virgina Tech, and now 26 from Newtown. The cycle continues. elchan Dec 21, 12:43

Sigh. You're trying to inject extraneous information and knee-jerk emotional reactions into the debate. How doe that help? BSmurf Dec 21, 13:37

Any death is significant, but the Virginia Tech and Newton victims amount to 14.6% of total since 1992, which is statistically significant. elchan Dec 21, 14:08

Armed guards or police won't deter people in the state of mind to commit them from these kinds of crimes. {nm} DTravel Dec 21, 08:53

Yes, but if it helps to limit their carnage, it's better than nothing. {nm} elchan Dec 21, 09:18

redesign schools so access to outsiders is impossible. look for creative, less intrusive ideas islander Dec 21, 09:29

This is still a band-aid that cannot address the real issue. To redesign 1000s of schools would cost more than treating the mentally ill! {nm} BSmurf Dec 21, 09:38

Again your argument is that we either eradicate it all, or do nothing. This is not valid. Also cost is not an issue. elchan Dec 21, 10:42

people regularly vote down tax increases even if the results are beneficial - better schools, better safety, more convenience. Moviesnob Dec 21, 10:48

One bullet-prood vest for every children! {nm} Antibody Dec 21, 10:53

British TV had to clarify twice that their coverage of the NRA conference was not a spoof. {nm} Moviesnob Dec 21, 11:23

Now that would be intrusive. Nothing stops a parent from buying a vest for their child to put in their locker, just in case. {nm} elchan Dec 21, 12:17

Really? Not that I'm for it, but wouldn't it be just part of the "school uniform"? {nm} Antibody Dec 21, 12:42

It's was BSmurf to brought up the analogy, but you don't need to wear a condom all day, just when it's necessary. elchan Dec 21, 14:10

I haven't advocated anything other than a sensible approach to dealing with mental illness that doesn't amount to fighting the fire after BSmurf Dec 21, 11:59

Cost is ALWAYS an issue. {nm} DTravel Dec 21, 13:35

Not for parents, who want to keep their children safe. {nm} elchan Dec 21, 13:57

So parents who make a total of $50K per year between the two of them would have no issue paying for a $100K/yr bodyguard for their child? {nm} DTravel Dec 21, 15:24

It would cost that much per family, but parents already get into debt sending their children to university, so, yes. {nm} elchan Dec 21, 16:01

SOME parents can go some tens of thousands in debt to pay for college. Few can go a couple MILLION in debt. DTravel Dec 22, 14:16

Columbine had an armed guard. {nm} avandelay Dec 21, 14:16

Yes, one could wonder how much worse it could have been, if there wasn't any opposition. Fifteen killed with two shooters, and NewTown ... elchan Dec 21, 15:16

There are soooo many ways that comparison doesn't work. DTravel Dec 21, 15:26

i think it's a stupid idea {nm} prisoner 24601 Dec 21, 20:34

Prisoner 24601, you are not in compliance. Your internet allotment for the week has been exceeded. You will now be punished. {nm} elchan Dec 21, 22:41

Thank God I'll be leaving for Yellowstone soon. I kind of come here to get away from news wroberson Dec 25, 01:01

About the closest thing to guns and gun control news stories back in the 80's was wroberson Dec 25, 01:32