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You're right, it's not the gun. It's the easy access to guns. But as long as people believe the 2nd amendment allows them to hold arsenals,

Posted by: dubord.s on Nov 15, 08:00 in response to TJNFL1's post it's not a gun. I own guns. I take my kids shooting. It's...

road ragers to full-blown psychopaths will be armed, mass shootings will continue, gun violence will continue, and nothing will change.

If Sandy Hook proved anything, it's that America values it's right to own weapons over the lives of kindergartners.

And the rest of First World countries will continue to stare on in disbelief.

Another week, another mass shooting. Antibody Nov 14, 15:34

it's not a gun. I own guns. I take my kids shooting. It's the person. I have the right to bear arms, and I will protect my son if I have to. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 14, 21:29

You're right, it's not the gun. It's the easy access to guns. But as long as people believe the 2nd amendment allows them to hold arsenals, dubord.s Nov 15, 08:00

You're right. take away all the guns, even law enforcement, and the military. No country would ever dare attack us. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 11:16

When the snapback against gun nuttery occurs, I hope it doesn't diminish entitlement to own a reasonable firearm for self-protection in the DTXbro Nov 15, 11:58

If you delegate your home and family safety to someone else, you will be sadly disappointed with the results. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 12:03

If you rely on recent-vintage right-wing gun kookery, you are destined to be dissatisfied and disarmed. Keep pushing, and the snapback will DTXbro Nov 15, 13:05

was going to carry on anyway. Not seeking your respect. Get run over tomorrow? That's why we have the guns. Sheep speak. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:30

Rural,left-behind men fetishize guns to compensate for insecurity about manhood, marketable skills, education, accomplishment, and the like. DTXbro Nov 16, 05:41

Loved your new book ..... "101 ways how to loose friends and irritate people". Congrats. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 16, 10:41

'LOSE' not 'LOOSE'. Playing LOOSE with the English Language again. {nm} Captain Obvious Nov 16, 15:58

Last time the US had to defend itself against another nation on its own soil: Canada rebuffed your own attacks & burnt down the White House {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 13:33

and we learned that defense strategy was lacking, and made vast improvements in capabilities since then. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:36

Yet we haven't changed ours, and we haven't been attacked. Nor do we have mass shootings. Imagine that. {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 13:39

I congratulate you and your country on both its beauty and its civility. If I move to a deserted island, bet there is no crime there either. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:47

FYI - Our deserted island has almost 40M people, including a city the size of Philly/Boston (7M). But with less guns. {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 14:12

so everyone is happy where they are, right? If not, then they can move somewhere else. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 22:04

same response as posted above. If that's what they want, good for them. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 22:06

Australia's Lessons on Gun Control: The 1996 Port Arthur massacre resulted in legislation that saw a dramatic decline in gun crimes. Antibody Nov 15, 14:19

The United States has not won a war in more than seven decades. Instead, we have settled for a series of vague draws with ragtag irregulars DTXbro Nov 16, 05:59

8 years of neglect can do that to a military. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 16, 10:44

So the last "7 decades" can be blamed on the last "8 years of neglect". Great logic. {nm} dubord.s Nov 16, 14:06

DTXbro failed to count the war in Iraq. TJNFL1 Nov 16, 14:41

Be more understanding; he may be doing the best he can with a backwater religious school education.{nm} DTXbro Nov 16, 14:54

Everyone is religious, or has their own religion. Even being a humanist or an atheist is a type of religion. Congrats on whatever yours is. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 16, 15:10

Calling COMPLETE BULLSH*T - there are Hundreds of Millions of People that are Religion-Free. {nm} Captain Obvious Nov 16, 16:06

Religion is the belief in something. Everyone believes in something. If not, they would follow the atheist religion. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 16, 16:17

Freedom-From-Religion is an Established Principle for Hundreds of Millions of People. Captain Obvious Nov 16, 16:56

Atheist: Belief that there is only mankind, who they believe to be the supreme form of both life and intelligence. TJNFL1 Nov 17, 01:17

TO: ‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens Antibody Nov 15, 09:40

the onion...lol  Conceal carry would detour more incidents as people could then defend themselves rather than lay on the floor and wait {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 11:24

Again, mass shooting do not happen repeatedly anywhere else in the world. {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 11:39

taking away guns, leaves more victims to cower in fear and await their demise. Unlawfuls will always have their guns. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 11:51

Yet, the opposite has been proven true in every other First World country. But ya, that theory must be right. {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 13:34

bahhhhhh {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:38

One of your most intelligent arguments to date. {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 13:40

Thank you sir. People wanting to remain victims is unnecessary, but I digress.{nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:45

We just know the difference between irrational fear, and things that should be feared (climate change for example...) {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 14:13

lol {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 22:07

NYT: The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns. Antibody Nov 15, 09:45

the only thing that keeps a home invasion from happening is the possibility that the home is being defended by a gun owner {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 11:08

You can keep your handguns, but there are no civilian purpose for military guns like AR-15. {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 11:37

actually, the worst states for home break-ins are the ones with the most lax gun laws slipping jimmy Nov 15, 11:45

actually, the worst states for home break-ins are the ones with no deterrents. You can be the next victim if you want. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 11:59

Nonsense, as demonstrated by the bare-footed plumber that stopped the Texas church shooter. edzep -- Port Monkey! Nov 15, 11:47

stopped him from what? after he killed 25 people {nm} slipping jimmy Nov 15, 11:52

Stopped him from going to the next church and making it 50. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 12:08

what next church? that was the only church he intended to target. successfully, alas. {nm} slipping jimmy Nov 15, 12:27

Did you get some post death interview with the nut job disclosing his humble aggression limits? {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:33

There wouldn't have been a mass shooting at the church in the first place if he didn't have a semi-automatic gun. {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 11:54

There wouldn't have been a mass shooting at the church in the first place if there were church goers out front waiting with AR-15's. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 12:06

Just a handgun would do. {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 12:22

A handgun against an AR-15? You can fight that battle if you want. Good luck. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:40

Thanks for allowing me to defend my own home and family. Now let me defend it with as much fire power as the gangs and cartels please. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 11:55

Why would you need protection from gangs and cartels? Are you dealing drugs? {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 11:57

Glad the gangs and cartels care so much about innocent bystanders. Makes me feel so much safer. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 12:12

You are more likely to get shoot by a mass murderer or domestic violence than by gangs and cartels. {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 12:19

Is that supposed to be encouraging? {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:51

This idea that civilians are entitled to possess heavy-duty firepower, and to carry guns wherever they wish, is recent and dopey. It seems DTXbro Nov 15, 12:02

Trust but verify. If you can get all the criminals to put down their arms first, it might make your argument a bit more persuasive. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 12:15

Unless the GOP perfects a machine that mass-produces half-educated, broadly intolerant, easily frightened, rural, selfish, superstitious, DTXbro Nov 15, 13:10

Easily frightened? You're the one hiding in a corner when someone shoots. No oposition to background checks or registration. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 13:57

Look up Home Invasion rates in other countries where guns aren't readily available. Clearly, that's not the deterrent. {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 13:37

Look up how many times some of those countries have been invaded and taken over by another country. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 14:01

Great point. All those EU countries better start arming themselves against each other before the Ottomans or Huns march in. {nm} dubord.s Nov 15, 14:15

By that logic, I guess every country should be stocking up, given invasions have been by the US more often than anyone else dubord.s Nov 15, 14:40

Believe the point is that many countries and individuals are allowed to make their own choice. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 15, 22:10

The point remains: The only variable that can explain the high rate of mass shootings in America is its astronomical number of guns. {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 23:59

or drunks, crack heads, emotionally unstable, financially bankrupt, multiple personalities, revengers, and those off their meds. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 16, 00:43

...who, thanks to the NRA, can all get their hands on high-powered weapons. {nm} dubord.s Nov 16, 14:08

Talk to your legal representatives if you don't like the current background checks. {nm} TJNFL1 Nov 16, 14:45

POTUS (re)tweets his condolences to Sutherland Springs in reaction slipping jimmy Nov 14, 22:02

What a motard. Would be hilarious if it wasn't so sad. {nm} Antibody Nov 15, 09:37





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