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There is no way for you know 100% what volume and direction all those shares were. {nm}

Posted by: Antibody on Jul 10, 14:05 in response to Buy BONDS 20's post I agree...and BONDS did not get on the elevator for AAAAA...

One of these things is not like the other..... (and I wish I knew why...) The Digital Mariner Jul 10, 07:29

I agree...and BONDS did not get on the elevator for AAAAA but even stranger is Buy BONDS 20 Jul 10, 08:34

and in the time it took me to type that up, it dropped another $2 on ~200k flips from long to short. Breaks? What breaks? {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 10, 12:06

'brakes' not 'breaks' {nm} RazorHawk Jul 10, 13:58

There is no way for you know 100% what volume and direction all those shares were. Antibody Jul 10, 14:05

That was meant for "The Digital Mariner on Jul 10, 12:06" {nm} Antibody Jul 10, 14:05

At this point, that is true. But YOU do and could easily shed some light on the situation without fully divuldging the secret sauce. The Digital Mariner Jul 10, 19:02

I can not explain the behavior of every trader on why he/she made the trade he/she made. {nm} Antibody Jul 11, 10:40

Because the intention of every trader is the question being asked.... The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 13:03

Again, you do not know what each and every transaction going through. You are only ASSUMING that you know. Antibody Jul 11, 13:42

Again, I never claimed to know each and every transaction or assume that I know. But YOU do The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 17:52

If I even give hints on the information you seek, then any smart trader will figure out ways around it. Some already do. Antibody Jul 12, 10:33

Revealing the kind of information you give in your example WOULD be giving away the formulas used. {nm} DTravel Jul 11, 15:24

So don't be as detailed, use more vauge adjectives. I just would like assurances it's valid movement beyond "trust me, it's legit" {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 18:11

Anything vague enough to keep the secrecy would boil down to Antibody's answers. DTravel Jul 11, 19:07

Maybe the timing of the trades and the resultant effects on the price change brakes? {nm} DTravel Jul 10, 09:52

And if that's what happens that would be a great explanation. Much better than the evasive no-answers currently offered. {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 13:07

If players know how the exact algorthim works, they will game the system. It's human nature. {nm} Antibody Jul 11, 13:48

How does saying "there were significantly more shorts/sells on that bond than any other in the first 3 hours" give away the exact algorthim? {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 17:56

It does, but answering that would give away hints on how the system works. {nm} Antibody Jul 12, 10:47

Price of the bond seems to have an affect to - the higher the price the more it moves {nm} JDolphin Jul 10, 12:47

In my examples there are similarly priced bonds (and others I omitted) with similar volume not reacting wildly. That's the question. {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 13:05





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