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If I even give hints on the information you seek, then any smart trader will figure out ways around it. Some already do.

Posted by: Antibody on Jul 12, 10:33 in response to The Digital Mariner's post Again, I never claimed to know each and every transaction...

The fact that they acted differently is due to the fact that they were traded differently, thus my reply regarding trading behavior of players making those trades.

One of these things is not like the other..... (and I wish I knew why...) The Digital Mariner Jul 10, 07:29

I agree...and BONDS did not get on the elevator for AAAAA but even stranger is Buy BONDS 20 Jul 10, 08:34

and in the time it took me to type that up, it dropped another $2 on ~200k flips from long to short. Breaks? What breaks? {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 10, 12:06

'brakes' not 'breaks' {nm} RazorHawk Jul 10, 13:58

There is no way for you know 100% what volume and direction all those shares were. {nm} Antibody Jul 10, 14:05

That was meant for "The Digital Mariner on Jul 10, 12:06" {nm} Antibody Jul 10, 14:05

At this point, that is true. But YOU do and could easily shed some light on the situation without fully divuldging the secret sauce. The Digital Mariner Jul 10, 19:02

I can not explain the behavior of every trader on why he/she made the trade he/she made. {nm} Antibody Jul 11, 10:40

Because the intention of every trader is the question being asked.... The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 13:03

Again, you do not know what each and every transaction going through. You are only ASSUMING that you know. Antibody Jul 11, 13:42

Again, I never claimed to know each and every transaction or assume that I know. But YOU do The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 17:52

If I even give hints on the information you seek, then any smart trader will figure out ways around it. Some already do. Antibody Jul 12, 10:33

Revealing the kind of information you give in your example WOULD be giving away the formulas used. {nm} DTravel Jul 11, 15:24

So don't be as detailed, use more vauge adjectives. I just would like assurances it's valid movement beyond "trust me, it's legit" {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 18:11

Anything vague enough to keep the secrecy would boil down to Antibody's answers. DTravel Jul 11, 19:07

Maybe the timing of the trades and the resultant effects on the price change brakes? {nm} DTravel Jul 10, 09:52

And if that's what happens that would be a great explanation. Much better than the evasive no-answers currently offered. {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 13:07

If players know how the exact algorthim works, they will game the system. It's human nature. {nm} Antibody Jul 11, 13:48

How does saying "there were significantly more shorts/sells on that bond than any other in the first 3 hours" give away the exact algorthim? {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 17:56

It does, but answering that would give away hints on how the system works. {nm} Antibody Jul 12, 10:47

Price of the bond seems to have an affect to - the higher the price the more it moves {nm} JDolphin Jul 10, 12:47

In my examples there are similarly priced bonds (and others I omitted) with similar volume not reacting wildly. That's the question. {nm} The Digital Mariner Jul 11, 13:05





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