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The long and the short of it...

Posted by: RazorHawk on Aug 03, 19:07 in response to Moviesnob's post ok. if its semantics, then i'm off

COMIC invests in superhero movies, movies based on comic books and movies based on graphic novels

SCIFI invests in science fiction (aliens, space travel, high tech, etc...)


It does not have to be so difficult.

 

 

Most superhero movies cross over into SCIFI territory so HSX put a limit on SCIFI that it cannot trade super hero movies so the two funds would not have a large number of same investments (which would lead to same growth which would make two seperate funds meaningless)

Superman (alien); Iron Man (high tech); Captain America (high tech - "super soldier serum"); Thor (space travel); Avengers (aliens);


COMIC = Superman, Iron Man, Batman, Meteor Man, Hancock, My Super Ex-Girlfriend, Kick-Ass; Sin City; Super....


SCIFI =  Star Wars; Star Trek; Interstellar; Lucy; Earth To Echo; Gravity; The Maze Runner....


Guardians Of The Galaxy are:

a) from comic books

b) superheroes


They do not have superpowers, but according to Moviesnob's post

"superhero (sometimes rendered super-hero or super hero) is a type of hero or saviour possessing extraordinary talents..."


Guardians Of The Galaxy fall into the grouping of superheroes without superpowers... Black Widow (Avenger); Hawkeye (Avenger); Green Arrow (Justice League); Robin (Teen Titans); Nightwing (Teen Titans); Kick-Ass; Hitgirl; Human Target; Oracle; The Question; Huntress; Moon Knight (Avenger); Punisher; Elecktra; Mockingbird (Avenger); Shang-Chi (Avenger); Two Gun Kid (Avenger); Judge Dredd; The Cape; Green Hornet; Silver Sable...

 

 

Sci Fi Fund Spawn Aug 03, 16:20

Fund Description "...To differentiate from COMIC, the fund will not invest in superhero films. " {nm} RazorHawk Aug 03, 16:24

There is no COMIC. And this was more SciFi than comic, anyway. {nm} Spawn Aug 03, 16:28

Comic can be anything. If it's based on a comic, then it's comic. {nm} Jay_Beezy Aug 03, 16:30

Okay. Why does SciFi hold Frank Miller's Ronin? Or Micronauts? {nm} Spawn Aug 03, 16:35

star wars was a comic. Star Trek has a comic. {nm} Moviesnob Aug 03, 16:42

alien, predator, terminator all have comics {nm} Moviesnob Aug 03, 16:43

None of those franchises you mentioned started out as comics so those aren't good bases for argument. {nm} Jay_Beezy Aug 03, 16:49

the comics heavily influenced other films in the franchise or were the major influence. {nm} Moviesnob Aug 03, 16:50

besides the argument here is "superhero films". there's a clear distinction between based on a comic or a superhero film Moviesnob Aug 03, 16:54

But the COMIC fund isn't just about superheroes. Jay_Beezy Aug 03, 17:15

you are right about comic. Ghost World, Black Hole. Those would apply. But the question is Sci Fi fund which is not defined by whats Moviesnob Aug 03, 17:29

Then the fund managers didn't phrase things properly. It shouldn't be differentiating from superheroes, but comic based material instead. Jay_Beezy Aug 03, 17:56

completely agree, but I also think guardians fits in Sci Fi based on the the distribution landscape (its impressive what marvel pulled off) {nm} Moviesnob Aug 03, 18:01

This is a pointless argument of semantics. Guardians is based on a comic therefore it's COMIC. Jay_Beezy Aug 03, 18:11

ok. if its semantics, then i'm off {nm} Moviesnob Aug 03, 18:25

The question of why SciFi would hold Frank Miller's Ronin or Micronauts is still valid, though. Spawn Aug 03, 18:42

The long and the short of it... RazorHawk Aug 03, 19:07

semantics, and all due respect, but your argument "extraordinary talents" would define most movies {nm} Moviesnob Aug 03, 19:31

Sorry, I was on holiday and couldn't take part in this thread srrichardson Aug 04, 04:07

The purpose of the criteria aren't to make the funds mutually exclusive, but to minimise the overlap {nm} srrichardson Aug 04, 04:11

exactly, this was not a superhero film. Its a sci-fi space opera {nm} Moviesnob Aug 03, 16:41

alter egos, costumes, and villians, smells like a superhero film to me. (yes, sure its scifi, and maybe the fund manager could have islander Aug 03, 17:31

thats how I am looking at it, but from the perspective that marvel deviated from their norm and made something insanely different. Moviesnob Aug 03, 17:44

At this moment it time - but the moment someone volunteers to run it - it comes back {nm} srrichardson Aug 04, 04:08

I think the more important question is why is the manager of COMIC still making trades in the fund, it delisted two months ago? RazorHawk Aug 03, 18:09

Yeah, the lack of COMIC was what lead me to looking at SciFi as an option. {nm} Spawn Aug 03, 19:05

They are still two distinct funds The lack of a BRITS fund doesn't mean EURO could invest in British StarBonds. {nm} Antibody Aug 03, 19:47

+1 {nm} Abraxas Aug 03, 19:55

A fund that can invest in Frank Miller's Ronin as a SciFi movie (which it *is* a comic book movie and *is not* sci fi), should be able to. Spawn Aug 03, 20:11

You're complaining about 1 share. Maybe SCIFI investing in FMRON is an error. Doesn't mean all rules are off. {nm} Antibody Aug 03, 21:11

almost as dumb as you charlie Aug 03, 20:12





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