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Given your posting history here I don't think you mean to sound demeaning to films starring minorities but in this case, you sort of do.

Posted by: CSBD on Jun 16, 08:44 in response to Moviesnob's post they might be shooting for oscar guilt

Is every film starring minorities released after summer going to be automaticially referred to as 'Oscar guilt/PC bait' this year? Isn't that over-generalization as well? What about in future? Is this only going to happen this year because of #OscarsSoWhite last year? I realize you are in the business and there is a certain cynicism involved with that but how do we move on from these characterizations if a release date causes this kind of scrutiny? Tupac is still a very powerful and popular persona to a lot of people. The fact that his murder is still not solved is interesting in a modern day true crime aspect which is also quite popular these days. (Making A Murderer, Serial etc...) Could it be possible that Open Road thinks they have something niche and artful and that's why it's coming out before Thanksgiving, before a lot of the big studio prestige stuff comes out? Maybe so they have a bit of a window and can make some money?  I'd personally like to think that a film starring minorities could open at any time of the year and it be just that - a film with an opening date. Please understand that this isn't a criticism - just an opening of hopefully thoughtful dialogue not predicated on aversion to anything and everything PC.  

EW: Teaser Trailer for All Eyez on Me [TUPAC]; Nov. 11 release date Oleg Max Jun 16, 06:34

it'll do decent IMO, but don't expect Compton numbers with that release date. I REALLY hate that release date lobogotti Jun 16, 07:13

they might be shooting for oscar guilt {nm} Moviesnob Jun 16, 07:26

Tupac can appear at the Oscars to perform a new song via hologram. {nm} BSmurf Jun 16, 07:33

Oh yes, considering the way the release schedule is working out, it's gonna be a PC Award season. {nm} numbersix_99 Jun 16, 07:42

good call {nm} lobogotti Jun 16, 07:44

Given your posting history here I don't think you mean to sound demeaning to films starring minorities but in this case, you sort of do. CSBD Jun 16, 08:44

fair, but good distributors gunning for oscars do manipulate the academy to their benefit and guilt is traditionally a big motivator Moviesnob Jun 16, 09:28

The perpetuation of and insistence on marginalization matters too. But oh well, maybe not to everyone. {nm} CSBD Jun 16, 10:22

Having Tupac garner nominations and wins is a blow against marginalization. {nm} Moviesnob Jun 16, 10:25

it would seem that they have more confidence in this than Snowden although Snowden has a TIFF friendly release date so who knows? {nm} Moviesnob Jun 16, 10:29

i've heard 'Snowden' is more like 'Snoozeden' and there's no excitement for it. {nm} CSBD Jun 16, 10:31

but what if it's just a money move (which is fine)? that is within the realm of possibility. {nm} CSBD Jun 16, 10:30

sure, but it doesnt feel that way on the surface. November is a month full of award bait films and a rap biopic was a focus of the outrage Moviesnob Jun 16, 10:37

errrrrr, rather earlier this year {nm} Moviesnob Jun 16, 10:39

I just hope this doesn't mean that every film starring minorities that gets released in the latter part of the year isn't immediately termed CSBD Jun 16, 10:42

I understand where you are coming but every film with minorities angling for awards will be using guilt as an angle. Moviesnob Jun 16, 10:54

I think I understand what you're saying, but I do believe you're missing my point. {nm} CSBD Jun 16, 11:51

I think i understand you, but i see my opinion as pragmatic. {nm} Moviesnob Jun 16, 12:07

I get your pragmatism, but I still don't think every film starring minorities released in the latter part of the year should be lumped as CSBD Jun 16, 12:19

fair enough {nm} Moviesnob Jun 16, 12:23

Unquestionably the most enjoyable thread I have read this year {nm} Bleachigo Jun 16, 22:31

FYI, this is the first official piece of info from the movie and the first announced release date. {nm} Antibody Jun 16, 09:43

The price was low because it was in development hell for years and there's been little recent news to drive trading. {nm} Antibody Jun 16, 09:46

I would think off the success of Compton and all the casting announcements that traders would have lobogotti Jun 16, 09:49

It's a cast of nobodies. The film was rushed into production because Morgan Creek was about to lost the rights. {nm} Antibody Jun 16, 09:50

Compton was also a cast of unfamiliars. Notorious as well. {nm} lobogotti Jun 16, 09:52

Compton had Dre, Cube and Universal behind it. Unfortunately Tupac is dead. ABASS and AMACK are stars, but NOBIG "only" made $36M. {nm} Antibody Jun 16, 09:55

Mack wasn't recognizable in 2009. even 7 years ago that film opened to $20M with those lobogotti Jun 16, 10:09

we've known clarence since 2002 adrenalin112 Jun 16, 10:31

LOL! Papa Doc didn't even grab the mic on his final rap... he has no cred with me. {nm} lobogotti Jun 16, 10:36

Open Road's biggest live-action success is TGREY $51M. {nm} Antibody Jun 16, 09:57

one way of looking at it is they have only had awards success, so you continue what you do well. {nm} Moviesnob Jun 16, 10:11

Right, that's the same weekend as SPOTL so the release pattern may be limited first. {nm} Antibody Jun 16, 10:25

Today is also Tupac's birthday. {nm} CSBD Jun 16, 10:05





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