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I'm not saying sequels can't do well, I'm saying the third reboot of a franchise in my opinion is not a slam dunk {nm}

Posted by: JonHH on Jul 04, 14:45 in response to Moviesnob's post Wonder Woman is a franchise film

V: APES3 Tracking $55m-$65m tomcat90 Jul 04, 06:55

Surely APES3 reviews will help push it higher than APES2. Are they expecting SPID6 performance to hinder APES3 performance? {nm} Jay_Beezy Jul 04, 07:50

I think it will be the other way around. SPID6 looks so bad, there's going to be reboot fatigue. APES3 will benefit {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 07:58

SPID6 has 93% on RT with almost 90 reviews. Your argument is invalid. {nm} Jay_Beezy Jul 04, 08:09

Could be. Or maybe the continuation of franchise fatigue. {nm} -JPV- Jul 04, 08:20

Yes, exactly, fatigue of Hollywood's easy recipe for money. How many times can we keep paying for essentially the same movie {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 08:22

James Bond? {nm} CSBD Jul 04, 11:24

Star Trek? Star Wars? Fast & Furious? {nm} FOXX Fund (ndmaster) Jul 04, 21:04

Fatigue can be correlated with a decrease in creativity with their franchises (see Pirates and Transformers). Jay_Beezy Jul 04, 11:45

agree the quality is there but its possible the marketing isnt connecting. thats why tracking is softer {nm} Moviesnob Jul 04, 14:23

V: Tracking $55 million to $65 million [APES3] {nm} Antibody Jul 04, 09:09

DL: tracking high $50M range. rivals say $70M-$80M. Antibody Jul 04, 14:28

It's not suddenly going to boom way higher than the last two. It will be another strong film, it will do well, let's not go crazy here lol. {nm} goodvibe61 Jul 04, 11:51

The last one opened close to 80 mil inflation adjusted. 65 mil for this one would constitute a significant drop for the franchise ßionicℳoron™ Jul 04, 12:40

Conversely, Amazing SPID 1 and 2 opened at 62 and 91.6 but somehow homecoming opens at 110+?! I just don't buy it {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 13:54

I think the reasoning is, unlike those, this is part of the MCU and Downey Jr.'s Iron Man is more or less a co-star. {nm} -JPV- Jul 04, 14:04

That's fair. But lately, there is a scary pattern of BO disappointment and fatigue re: franchises. People want new, e.g. Wonder W {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 14:24

Just 2 months ago, GOTG2 did better than GOTG. {nm} Antibody Jul 04, 14:30

Wonder Woman is a franchise film {nm} Moviesnob Jul 04, 14:41

I'm not saying sequels can't do well, I'm saying the third reboot of a franchise in my opinion is not a slam dunk JonHH Jul 04, 14:45

Agree, but I think nothing is a slam dunk. It helps to make a good movie from a known property that you promote well though {nm} Moviesnob Jul 04, 14:54

The 'Jackass' Movies are a Slam Dunk. The 'Mission Impossible' Movies & the James Bond Movies are a Slam Dunk. Captain Obvious Jul 04, 15:32

Transformers was a slam dunk...until this one. Pirates was a slam dunk...until this one. ßionicℳoron™ Jul 04, 15:50

Especially considering the last 3 Spider-Man movies have ranged from mediocre (last reboot) to painful to watch (the last one). ßionicℳoron™ Jul 04, 15:57





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