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Especially considering the last 3 Spider-Man movies have ranged from mediocre (last reboot) to painful to watch (the last one).

Posted by: ßionicℳoron™ (a.k.a BionicMoron_Temp) on Jul 04, 15:57 in response to JonHH's post I'm not saying sequels can't do well, I'm saying the...

The franchise has been beaten into the ground.

Now, bringing in Iron Man and the whole MCU connection does help, a lot.  That's at least a bit of a fresh angle.  It may wind up performing more like Wonder Woman - moderately subdued opening, long legs.  That one was also coming off three prior franchise lead ins ranging from mediocre (SSquad) to painful to watch (BvS), and was really good, like SPID6 appears to be.

V: APES3 Tracking $55m-$65m tomcat90 Jul 04, 06:55

Surely APES3 reviews will help push it higher than APES2. Are they expecting SPID6 performance to hinder APES3 performance? {nm} Jay_Beezy Jul 04, 07:50

I think it will be the other way around. SPID6 looks so bad, there's going to be reboot fatigue. APES3 will benefit {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 07:58

SPID6 has 93% on RT with almost 90 reviews. Your argument is invalid. {nm} Jay_Beezy Jul 04, 08:09

Could be. Or maybe the continuation of franchise fatigue. {nm} -JPV- Jul 04, 08:20

Yes, exactly, fatigue of Hollywood's easy recipe for money. How many times can we keep paying for essentially the same movie {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 08:22

James Bond? {nm} CSBD Jul 04, 11:24

Star Trek? Star Wars? Fast & Furious? {nm} FOXX Fund (ndmaster) Jul 04, 21:04

Fatigue can be correlated with a decrease in creativity with their franchises (see Pirates and Transformers). Jay_Beezy Jul 04, 11:45

agree the quality is there but its possible the marketing isnt connecting. thats why tracking is softer {nm} Moviesnob Jul 04, 14:23

V: Tracking $55 million to $65 million [APES3] {nm} Antibody Jul 04, 09:09

DL: tracking high $50M range. rivals say $70M-$80M. Antibody Jul 04, 14:28

It's not suddenly going to boom way higher than the last two. It will be another strong film, it will do well, let's not go crazy here lol. {nm} goodvibe61 Jul 04, 11:51

The last one opened close to 80 mil inflation adjusted. 65 mil for this one would constitute a significant drop for the franchise ßionicℳoron™ Jul 04, 12:40

Conversely, Amazing SPID 1 and 2 opened at 62 and 91.6 but somehow homecoming opens at 110+?! I just don't buy it {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 13:54

I think the reasoning is, unlike those, this is part of the MCU and Downey Jr.'s Iron Man is more or less a co-star. {nm} -JPV- Jul 04, 14:04

That's fair. But lately, there is a scary pattern of BO disappointment and fatigue re: franchises. People want new, e.g. Wonder W {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 14:24

Just 2 months ago, GOTG2 did better than GOTG. {nm} Antibody Jul 04, 14:30

Wonder Woman is a franchise film {nm} Moviesnob Jul 04, 14:41

I'm not saying sequels can't do well, I'm saying the third reboot of a franchise in my opinion is not a slam dunk {nm} JonHH Jul 04, 14:45

Agree, but I think nothing is a slam dunk. It helps to make a good movie from a known property that you promote well though {nm} Moviesnob Jul 04, 14:54

The 'Jackass' Movies are a Slam Dunk. The 'Mission Impossible' Movies & the James Bond Movies are a Slam Dunk. Captain Obvious Jul 04, 15:32

Transformers was a slam dunk...until this one. Pirates was a slam dunk...until this one. ßionicℳoron™ Jul 04, 15:50

Especially considering the last 3 Spider-Man movies have ranged from mediocre (last reboot) to painful to watch (the last one). ßionicℳoron™ Jul 04, 15:57





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