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I've given you perfectly viable reasons why you're premise isn't as solid as you think it is, you simple don't want to hear it.
I don't have to answer your question Roger, I simply need to make counter arguments. This is a debate, not an inquest.
Rural areas have far lower murder and crime with the same access to the same weapons.
The murder rate has consistently fallen over the last 30 years in the US(~50%), with no effective legislation being enacted to curtail access to firearms. If your premise was the golden goose you seem to think it is, the murder rate would be consistent over that period, all other things being equal. But it isn't.
I'm not going to sit here and argue the access to machine guns, because it's like arguing what knife type people most commonly stab people with. It’s the most convenient one. And when that one becomes inconvenient, they just chose the next most convenient. They don’t just give up once they have crossed that boundary.
If you want to debate spree killers and how you think you're "solution" is going to stop them. Let's go. Tim McVeigh, 160 people from IED, no gun. If someone wants to kill a mass amount of people, they're not going to say "Darn, they made guns illegal. Guess I just got to deal with life. Herpaderp". Columbine killers brought IED's, the Colorado killer rigged his apartment full of them. Mass killers don't give 2 ****s about the inconvenience of law.
Where we can agree is that buying a gun or transferring to a non-family member should take a simple background check. Not some overly burdensome, intrusive & long process. The government knows when you’re a convicted violent offender instantly when you provide identification. That helps keep weapons out of criminal hands & doesn’t overly burden people’s rights. Where I will never agree is that simply making them go away solves the core problem of people wanting to kill others.
As for the Mentally Ill. You have to be very careful how you approach that. Stigmatizing people and taking their rights away without good cause ensures no one seeks help. Taking of rights requires a court of law, or at the very least a Judge, not some activist mental health professional’s opinion.
Good luck with your gun free society, we'll see how that works out for you long term. History is a **** if you don't pay attention.
And, that's really all I have, or need, to say. Toodles.
Country music star Mindy McCready commits suicide. Feb 17, 18:39
Hmmm - person with documented mental illness in possession of a gun - where have we heard that before. {nm} Feb 17, 23:54
on reruns of Canadian TV show Flashpoint (on Ion Cable Network) {nm} Feb 18, 06:04
Endless array of mass shootings in the USA with automatic weapons. Pay attention. {nm} Feb 18, 12:14
They're not "automatic". If you're going to spew your "righteousness", get it right. Else you just look stupid. {nm} Feb 18, 17:40
Pay attention. Those mass shootings weapons were mostly semi-automatic or fully automatic weapons. Feb 18, 20:27
I'm guessing it's pretty rare, since fully automatic weapons are so tightly regulated. {nm} Feb 19, 07:05
There's 240,000 fully automatic machine guns registered in private hands in the U.S. Expensive, but not difficult to obtain. Feb 19, 13:24
So you obviously agree that making guns slightly harder to get hold of = fewer shootings. That's great! {nm} Feb 19, 13:33
No, I do not agree with you. And it's clear that your argument using machine guns is so utterly baseless it's ludicrous. {nm} Feb 19, 15:12
Yet, making a semi-auto weapon full auto is trivial for anyone that can use a power tool & the Internet. Feb 19, 16:01
That completely avoids my simple question. Feb 19, 19:55
And you're avoiding the fact that they were rarely used even before the regulations were tightened in the 1980's. Feb 19, 22:10
I'm not trying to get you to agree with me - I just want you to understand how bad your argument is. Feb 20, 06:43
I've given you perfectly viable reasons why you're premise isn't as solid as you think it is, you simple don't want to hear it. Feb 20, 10:20
I should clarify a few things here... Feb 20, 12:30
Mass shootings in the US typically happen in "gun-free zones". Feb 19, 14:30
Mass shootings are a far bigger problem in the United States than other countries. Why do you think this is so? Feb 19, 15:54
There are a few reasons, most of which are controversial and I don't want to go into at this point in time. Feb 19, 16:03
You can email me if you want to keep it off the boards - but if not, have you been to America? Feb 19, 20:34
Try comparing countries of similar populations and population densities. {nm} Feb 19, 16:07
As John McClane is fond of saying, 'If you are not part of the solution, you are part of the problem'. {nm} Feb 18, 12:21
Hmmm. Funny you'd say that... {nm} Feb 19, 09:15
Life is precious and irreplaceable however, people are not {nm} Feb 19, 00:15