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I think it's change in policing that will be a lot more effective.
The "community needs to take responsibility" means that onus is put on a large group of people who don't really have much of an organization beyond all living in the same part of town. And things like "better parenting" will take a generation, and aren't really enforceable. It's a bunch of individuals without a structure. Contrast that with what the police - a more organized group with a defined purpose, a chain of command, internal administration, training systems, etc. it's going to be easier to change policing, and it will be more successful in building trust and breaking the cycle in years, not generations.
I brought up the traffic ticketing because even though you think it is petty, it is also a reason why the police aren't trusted and can't make headway in solving more serious crimes. If the police can't be trusted to dispense justice at the trafficticket level, how can you trust them on serious crimes? It's like the broken windows theory, but in reverse.
And I brought up easy examples of wrongful death because it shows that the victims are not criminals, but often ordinary people going about living their lives. And even though these are easy examples, AFAIK none of the police involved have faced criminal penalties, which you'd think would occur. Because they're easy examples. And that perceived lack of accountability doesn't build trust either. It looks more like people protecting their own than a system that provides justice for all.
And it's not just that people won't talk to police because they don't trust them, it's because they don't believe they'll catch the people responsible, and that they'll be threatened with violence or maybe death if they do, and the police won't be there to help them when that happens either.
Finally it's the police who are empowered to use force legally, so it's really on them to ensure that it is used for the right reasons.
FWIW I live in a big city - maybe a little bigger than the St Louis area. Shootings do happen here, including occasionally shootings by police. But the homicide rate is a lot lower here and far fewer people are shot by police. And that is due in part to better policing - which in turn gives parent a better chance to raise children and communities here breathing space to do the sorts of things you are suggesting.
Washington Post Fact Checker: "Hands up, don't shoot" did not happen in Ferguson Mar 22, 06:32
yes, not putting your hands up is a free pass for the cop to shoot you unarmed {nm} Mar 22, 10:38
'Unarmed' is not relevant when you've gone from robbing a liquor store, to attacking a cop in his car. {nm} Mar 22, 11:55
it's totally relevant when you're 150 feet away from the cop when he shoots you {nm} Mar 22, 14:59
The Justice Dept. report disagrees with you. Mar 22, 15:45
yes the law is overwhelmingly in the favor of police shooting first and asking no questions later {nm} Mar 22, 19:01
well that's much better. 20 feet = fire away {nm} Mar 22, 18:58
You Unload the Entire Clip on the Sucker .... unless it is a White Guy, then You use Non-Lethal Means. Mar 22, 22:10
Which actually happened to the neo-Nazi who went on a shooting rampage in Arizona and killed one. {nm} Mar 23, 11:35
At 20 feet you don't have 4 seconds to decide, much closer to 0.4 seconds to decide AND act. {nm} Mar 22, 22:39
Thanks - I was being generous. That was the police point. And I stil haven't heard what non-lethal means anyone would use {nm} Mar 22, 23:09
They don't call that class of weapon "non-lethal". They are "less lethal" (rubber bullets, tasers, beanbag rounds, etc.) Mar 23, 12:59
Might be new for the rest of the country - but in St Louis, we knew that false a week or two after it happened {nm} Mar 22, 12:24
And that report came out 3 weeks ago. {nm} Mar 22, 12:28
oops meant to include the link to the actual report Mar 22, 12:29
It's still irrelevant to the main point. {nm} Mar 22, 16:56
Which main point is that? {nm} Mar 22, 17:04
That too many people die from police action, and that the victims are disproportionately African-American. Mar 22, 19:46
Okay - I thought this was about the Hands Up part which was false but continually gets perpetuated {nm} Mar 22, 19:56
No, I'm just saying it's irrelevant. Mar 22, 20:24
I'm sorry he died but he brought it on himself. {nm} Mar 22, 20:36
There's the immediate injustice that a person shouldn't die for what he did. Mar 22, 21:26
Just one of many, how is this not an EXECUTION? Mar 22, 23:06
Police have the authority, but the power to make if life-and-death exists on both "sides". Mar 23, 13:12
By power I mean `legitimate power` {nm} Mar 23, 14:39
I think it's change in policing that will be a lot more effective. Mar 23, 05:11
You're Blaming the Victim. Try this - Make Body-Worn Cameras on Police Mandatory - Reduces Use-Of-Force. Mar 23, 05:55
