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I guess I see now why the way it works makes sense. {nm}

Posted by: ribwoods2 (a.k.a del_KHU_duckerb) on Dec 28, 22:28 in response to LiteratnStylish's post Confused about the derivatives for the films opening 12/25

Confused about the derivatives for the films opening 12/25 LiteratnStylish Dec 22, 04:44

Also see my post today in Feedback & Support (nm) Patient Player Dec 22, 21:29

The Market Calendar is your Clarification. The Market Calendar is your Seeing-Eye Dog (Guide Dog). {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 23, 01:07

... IF, that is, there are never oversights nor other mistakes in the Market Calendar. ribwoods2 Dec 23, 02:03

... so we'd rather have straight answers to straight questions, (nm) ribwoods2 Dec 23, 02:09

... :-) {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 02:14

Oversights & Mistakes are Pointed out & Corrected. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 23, 02:17

... eventually, sure {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 02:25

but random capitalization, apparently, is forever! {nm} SenJohnBlutarsky Dec 23, 09:31

Here's a Straight Answer - It's Absurd to Think that a Movie Opening on a Monday will Delist CashOut the Next Day Tuesday. Absurd. Nonsense. {nm} Captain Obvious Dec 23, 02:25

... So, the Monday openers will include only Dec 29 -Jan 1 receipts in their derivatives which will delist Jan 2. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 02:34

... or Dec 25 plus Dec 29-31. Or what? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 02:38

What? You want an Eight (8) Day OW (DEC 25 to JAN 01)? {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 23, 07:53

Oo {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 21:25

What I WANT is a clae {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 21:27

What I WANT is a clear explanation of how the Dec 25 openers' derivativt {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 21:30

... derivatives will be handled, in an ambiguous siti {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 21:33

... situation wher {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 21:34

... where there is more than one possible interpretation of the existing text, including an OW longer than 4 days. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 21:39

This could be resolved by re'-wording those derivatives" descriptions, which needs to be done before Monday. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 21:58

What's not Clear about 'OPENING WEEKEND FRI-MON' (DEC.29 - JAN.01)? {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 23, 22:01

What's not clear is why the derivs w0 {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:00

... will halt {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:01

... will halt Dec 25 instead of Dec 29 {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:02

As of now, the seeing-eye Msrket Calendar tells us when those derivatives will halt trading, but not when they will cash out ot exactly w {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:06

... or unambiguouslly which days their "opening weekend" will include. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:10

The Market Calendar for December 31 to January 06 is not yet Posted. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 23, 22:10

... so we have to gu {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:12

... guess what it does not y {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:13

... so there wil {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:14

So, halting them on Dec 25 means they _will_ cover an 8-day OW ?? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:17

OPENING WEEKEND FRI-MON just as it Appears on the Market Calendar. The HALT has no Relevance to the OPENING WEEKEND FRI-MON Calculation. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 23, 22:20

Halt on Dec 25 + cashout on Jan 2 means they cover 8 days? Pls confirm or explain otherwise. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:22

"first Fridau of _wide release_" will be Dec 29. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:26

The Derivatives will Delist CashOut on Tuesday, January 02, 2024. The Market Calendar works the same Every Week. Nothing Different here. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 23, 22:12

First Friday of < wide > release will be Dec 29. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:29

Correct? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:30

If so, why aren't they halting on Dec 29 instead of 25? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:33

Dec 25 openers are not in _wide_ release on Dec 22, 23, or 24. {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:38

Is the light dawning? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 22:42

Derivatives traditionally halt on first day fot which BO counts for them. So halt on Dec 25 means Dec 25 BO counts for them? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:11

So they're NOT just FRI-MON? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:13

Are they MON, FRI, A AT {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:15

Are they MON, FRI, SAT, SUN, MON (5-day OW) or MON, TUE, WED, THU, FRI, SAT, SUN, MON (8-day OW) or ?? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:20

or are they halting FOUR DAYS BEFORE normal de r {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:24

... derivatives would? {nm} ribwoods2 Dec 23, 23:25

The Wide Release Box Office of 25-26-27-28 will Not be Included in the OPENING WEEKEND FRI-MON 29-30-31-01. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 24, 01:44

Thank you. ribwoods2 Dec 24, 02:56

Keep in mind that RotoHockey is just another player. He is not part of the HSX staff. {nm} DTravel Dec 24, 10:32

See (ATMIW.OW) Wide Release December 25, 2017 OPENING WEEKEND FRI-MON. Delist CashOut Tuesday, January 02, 2018. H$6.19. RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 24, 13:16

(ATMIW) Box Office DEC 25-26-27-28 NOT Included in OPENING WEEKEND FRI-MON. {nm} RotoHockeyYTD2014 Dec 24, 13:18

I guess I see now why the way it works makes sense. ribwoods2 Dec 28, 22:28

Jesus christ, do you not know about the inside message part of these boards? ndmaster Jan 02, 09:01





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