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The argument of it being Hackneyed is academic, and applies to everything.
SamJohnson2 covered the error in your logic about the BoxOffice because you're failing to account for people who watched the other films long after they arrived at Theaters and watched it on Netflix or something else like the Dollar Theaters. In terms of Major plot holes the only one point I've head of was made out by a critit dealt with him not understanding why there was a big explosion when Thor struck Captain Americas shield. Â Clearly they didn't watch CA or pay attention if they did. If you're going to argue that the plot is tired and trite then that's the case with every story ever made. Go back and read the original plots like Beowolf and the Iliad and the Odissy if you want "Original" material so badly. Heck even the Lord of the Rings is unoriginal in that it barrows heavily from Norse Methology and the basis for the Right was Nibelung. If you were fully versed in literature and entertainment all stories would see boring and repetitive because they are all retailing of only a few stories that we have and use.
What Avengers did that the other have not is give Comic Book Grade Continutity which is designed to bring people interested in one series into another series. Something that Hollywood rarely uses well and the few examples of Hollywood trying it on its own are things like the original Planet of the Apes Movies which just get worse as you watch them. The limit of story that Hollywood usually does is a trillogy and by the 3rd film they are usually just calling it in to make a quick buck.
A collection of Avengers-related thoughts about the movies. May 07, 07:46
agreed on your point 3. Furthermore; 'why so serious' about this kiddiefare May 07, 07:53
You should probably go back and re-read points 1, 2, 4, and 5. :) {nm} May 07, 08:04
okay... tried again... head hurts... AAArgh... JMT Smash ! {nm} May 07, 08:50
The most important point was in the final line.{nm} May 07, 10:23
Luxurification? Infantalization? {nm} May 07, 08:28
I don't really agree with your points. May 07, 08:29
I believe Robert Downey Jr. sold some Avengers tickets. But isn't that a vivid exception? Edward Norton is a fine actor, but May 07, 08:47
RDOWN, in the same way JDEPP made the "Pirates..." franchise work, or HLEDG made BATM2 something very good into something... May 07, 09:31
I think your mixing some rotten apples in with your oranges. May 07, 09:58
Following this logic, box office figures seem to suggest that many ANVGR patrons did not see any other movie ever May 07, 10:42
What form of logic do you have in mind? Deductive, inductive, and even abductive appear to be out of the running.{nm} May 07, 11:20
The argument of it being Hackneyed is academic, and applies to everything. May 07, 11:34
The Audience is the correct answer. May 07, 12:17
The Audience is the only measuring stick you really have. May 07, 13:54
Don't worry. It's the blockbusters that pay the way for artistic films. May 07, 09:05
And if anyone fixates on artistic films, it's a guy named Bluto who lives at Delta House! {nm} May 07, 15:49
Relax. Not every film can be high-minded art like Caddyshack or Animal House. {nm} May 07, 09:32
Seems to me that you are like Judge Smails looking down on lowbrow entertainment like The Avengers. May 07, 10:37
Stripes, Caddyshack, and Animal House were great lowbrow entertainments, which is in some ways the best entertainment. {nm} May 07, 11:22
The gist of your argument (such that it is) when all is said and done comes to an internet meme. May 07, 11:47