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Posted by: BSmurf on Oct 18, 12:02 in response to websch01ar's post My friend...

Quote from websc01ar:

"But let me posit this . . . if I am right . . . if there is an eternal separation from some heavenly Creator if we do not accept whatever path laid out for us . . . what kind of person would I be if I do no share it?"

Rephrased for a counterpoint:

"But let me posit this . . . if I am wrong . . . if there is no heavenly Creator, no path laid out for us . . . what kind of person would I be if I continue to share it?"

You would be considered a lunatic. Note that I am not calling you this, just that if a person continues to espouse a position that is clearly not correct, that person should have no expectation that their word can be trusted.

Do you believe in just one specific set of religious "facts" above all others? Why? What makes those particular religious "facts" better than all of the other ones out there in the world? Can every single person who has a different religious belief than you be wrong

Even the slightest investigation into the matter makes the whole thing come apart, so what will happen is the stock, standard response will come down to "Faith and Belief" - either you have Faith and Believe, or you don't.

To websch01ar, you're clearly educated and intelligent. Can you make a compelling argument for the existence of (any) God or afterlife as described in (any) religion, without resorting to the Fath or Belief copout/Get Out of Jail Free argument?

Can anyone?

 

accountant_4_Jesus was removed as fund manager for the Awards Fund. Why? {nm} Tanker Oct 17, 20:29

I bought the fund because A4J was running it. This is highly annoying. {nm} elchan Oct 17, 20:51

A4J did a wonderful job on the fund, but I guess thoughtcrime must be punished. {nm} Tanker Oct 17, 21:01

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Not sure this belongs here . . . websch01ar Oct 18, 05:07

Okay, let's say for argument's sake A4J violated the CoC. Where in the CoC does it say if you violate, you will lose your fund management? Tanker Oct 18, 05:37

I stated my support for A4J from a freedom/liberty perspective, however MGMT... websch01ar Oct 18, 05:46

So DMac can remove a fund manager without warning for something the manager did not do but apologized for anyway? Tanker Oct 18, 06:04

Is what it is. {nm} websch01ar Oct 18, 06:05

What it is is bull****. {nm} Tanker Oct 18, 06:07

And I appreciate your support of A4J. {nm} Tanker Oct 18, 06:40

so what happened? i don't see any discussion in feedback..... {nm} forlorne Oct 18, 05:45

Here ya go... websch01ar Oct 18, 05:47

A4J was accused of saying all Muslims are killers (which he did not do) and A4J apologized for any offense taken. Tanker Oct 18, 06:00

watch yourself, you just said "all Muslims are killers"....wait, so did I now...........AAAAaaaaaaaaaaaaa {nm} forlorne Oct 18, 06:25

Good thing I don't run a fund or it would be taken away from me without warning. {nm} Tanker Oct 18, 06:27

Some things we think we think about this at Delta House DTXbro Oct 18, 08:12

Just because I can't yell fire in a crowded theater doesn't mean I'm being censored. Steved1998 Oct 18, 13:56

I meant this as a general reply to the thread {nm} Steved1998 Oct 18, 13:57

A4J, stick around. Don't let these people censor your views. {nm} elchan Oct 18, 08:36

For the (hopefully) last time: IT'S NOT CENSORSHIP! He said exactly what he wanted to say and suffered consequences for it. BSmurf Oct 18, 09:24

My friend... websch01ar Oct 18, 10:36

The flip side: BSmurf Oct 18, 12:02

Nice websch01ar Oct 18, 12:41

Thank you for the response. BSmurf Oct 18, 12:59

Is a full-fledged argument worthwhile? websch01ar Oct 18, 13:04

Re: macro-evolution: Was an off-topic digression and not relevant to the question that was proposed. BSmurf Oct 18, 13:27

Guys, please don't get into an argument on account of me. I don't want that. {nm} accountant_4_Jesus Oct 18, 13:31

You premise is that man is naturally good, yes? {nm} websch01ar Oct 19, 04:33

Well, yes, and my criteria are easily explained as i did not come to belief until i was 40. logically, most "religions"" forlorne Oct 18, 13:35

Oh please, when there's severe action taken, as a result of an opinion that you put forth on an internet forum, it's censorship. elchan Oct 18, 11:40

Correct, but this is not a governmental entity and the TOS is clear. {nm} websch01ar Oct 18, 11:51

They are the "authorities", of HSX, and A4J did not perpetrate a personal attack on any particular member. elchan Oct 18, 12:37

Indeed, but the thread was in the wrong forum and he was not the creator of the thread. websch01ar Oct 18, 12:42

elchan and websch01ar, I can see where both of you are coming from, but I would rather not have another argument started because of me. accountant_4_Jesus Oct 18, 13:34

Just because I can't yell fire in a crowded theater doesn't mean I'm being censored. Steved1998 Oct 18, 13:58

Bad move DMAC TwoMisfits Oct 18, 09:41

This is some serious ****ing bull**** {nm} salsashark1 Oct 19, 00:47





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