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not any longer. its all machines and much as i don't come here to debate it wouldn't execute above the limit. Furthermore>>>>>

Posted by: tradermark on Sep 02, 12:24 in response to Antibody's post In real life, there's a real person that takes your...

a stop order is used to cover shorts or sell longs to my knowledge. it is by definition a limit order. You're covering before it goes higher and selling before it goes lower hence limiting gains or losses.I'm doing this near 40 years and i've never heard an order called a stop limit order, its redundant.

In this case Durf seems to have been going long or short, initiating a position. In that case no execution should have occured beyond his price.

All that being said i did notice what Antibody said early on about the programming difficulty.

Why does the system allow a purchase to be executed higher than your limit price? durf Sep 02, 10:51

Because otherwise there would be no price movement. It hit your limit your price, your trade ticked it up. {nm} Antibody Sep 02, 10:54

that is why it is a LIMIT order . . . it should not have executed the order at all if the price needed to go above the LIMIT {nm} durf Sep 02, 10:54

That's the way the Virtual Specialist works. It's harder to code and more taxing on the system to process that way. Antibody Sep 02, 11:15

and would all that work and server slowdon (god forbid) be worth the benefit {nm} tealfan Sep 02, 12:45

*slowdown {nm} tealfan Sep 02, 13:04

1% trade fee {nm} tatoufan Sep 02, 10:59

it was executed ABOVE the LIMIT price plus the 1% commission {nm} durf Sep 02, 11:02

its just like real life, it executes at the next available price. Oleg Max Sep 02, 11:06

in real life, the order would not go through because on a price was above the LIMIT (on a purchase)--definition of LIMIT {nm} durf Sep 02, 11:07

not if its 'stop limit', once it hits limit it automatically becomes market order = filled at the next available price. {nm} Oleg Max Sep 02, 11:09

If you put a limit order to buy Telsa Motors at 100/share and the next available seller was at $195, the trade will just not execute. {nm} durf Sep 02, 11:09

like i said, there is a difference between 'limit' and 'stop limit', with 'stop limit' you will buy TSLA @ 195 in your scenario {nm} Oleg Max Sep 02, 11:32

So you perhaps paid a tinge more than you hoped. Don't let it ruin your day. {nm} RollingThunder Sep 02, 11:10

agreed; but the trading program needs to be fixed. {nm} durf Sep 02, 11:11

Same principle applies to non-limit orders on HSX. The last price is not guaranteed to be the actual price at the time of order execution. {nm} Antibody Sep 02, 11:24

You're clouding the issue . . . of coures non-limit prices will not be the last price; depends on how much buying or selling is happening... {nm} durf Sep 02, 11:31

this was a LIMIT order, emphasis on LIMIT {nm} durf Sep 02, 11:31

Finally, another voice of reason! DiNar0 Sep 02, 11:48

In real life, there's a real person that takes your trade. HSX uses the Virtual Specialist to simulate the other party. {nm} Antibody Sep 02, 11:55

not any longer. its all machines and much as i don't come here to debate it wouldn't execute above the limit. Furthermore>>>>> tradermark Sep 02, 12:24

But those machines represent real people/companies. HSX accepts all trades without matching them to another trader. {nm} Antibody Sep 02, 13:35

I totally understand theres no 'other side' except the house in here. Thats why i'll never utter a word about execution. {nm} tradermark Sep 02, 15:24

I brought this up before here... bbb101 Sep 02, 12:48

QUASI-LIMIT-ORDERS. {nm} Captain Obvious Sep 02, 14:06

well they don't activate until the limit is reached so they may not be the limit order you are familar with but they are limit orders. {nm} tradermark Sep 02, 15:26





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