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Certainly spectacle is mostly what's drawing audiences into the theatre and away from excellent tv content.

Posted by: lesana on Apr 27, 09:45 in response to DTXbro's post Will the emphasis on comic book sequelry be the savior of...

Which means more superhero sequels. I don't personally have a problem with that if the quality is as good as Infinity War. But Batman vs Superman and Justice League proved that supposedly sure-fire comic book movies can also fall flat and leave audiences with a bad taste. Hollywood just can't afford to produce many more of these lazy movies because audiences have become more sophisticated.

I think the question is actually less about spectacle and more about what movies people want to watch with a cinema audience. Guess that's why A Quiet Place can generate such huge numbers.

The biggest problem as I see it is that long-form storytelling on tv is mostly way more satisfying. If that quality and variety continues, even movie fans like me find themselves going out to the theatre less and less.

Will the emphasis on comic book sequelry be the savior of the big screen, the end of it, or neither? DTXbro Apr 27, 09:12

nothing lasts forever. the unknown variable is how long "forever" actually is in this case {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 27, 09:30

(sooner or later some smart exec will see that it's more profitable to make $100+m on a $25m budget than spending $250m to chase $500m) {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 27, 09:38

I think you need to double check your math there my friend ($250m>$75m) {nm} Moviesnob Apr 27, 09:44

but you can make 10 of those for 1 comic movie (not all are going to hit the jackpot every time but singles, doubles, and triples are good) {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 27, 09:48

But sequels/franchise films are the surest way to make money. The risk is greater for originals. Why hit a few singles when every film can Moviesnob Apr 27, 09:53

no risk is great until the model stops working completely. having nothing much else in the pipeline will be fun to watch when it comes slipping jimmy Apr 27, 10:04

the problem with comparing now to the 70's is there's growth in other revenue streams. Studios mitigate their loses through them and through Moviesnob Apr 27, 10:13

that was the DVD model until it died. use the extra revenue from home video to finance the "middle" and mitigate loss from big-budget flops slipping jimmy Apr 27, 10:31

broadcast is the main revenue stream now and DVDs covered loses mostly from mid range flops that the studios have basically stopped making {nm} Moviesnob Apr 27, 10:32

that's a good question or further info is needed. what films are big stuidos afraid of now? lobogotti Apr 27, 11:51

things in the $25-50m budget range, e.g., the rom-com, adult "prestige" drama, even straight up comedies {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 27, 12:06

product that doesnt travel well overseas (Supertroopers 2) {nm} Moviesnob Apr 27, 13:09

yup, proportionately on box office absolutely. But the component we're not taking into account here.... ronin66 Apr 27, 10:30

licensing only became a thing because Alan Ladd, Jr. took a flyer on George Lucas with an unknown script that became the biggest movie ever slipping jimmy Apr 27, 10:33

the fault in your logic is finding enough material to make several movies to make more $$ than one big one. tradermark Apr 27, 11:19

there is literally an infinite supply of original spec scripts if any studio so chose to develop them. {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 27, 11:30

I won't disagree the supply is there but making it adaptable is the key and i'd argue it doesn't all lend it itself to tradermark Apr 27, 11:38

spec scrips used to sell for several million dollars in the heyday of the 80s and 90s. studios obviously thought they were filmable then slipping jimmy Apr 27, 11:46

Like what? Early Superman movies? Gene Hackman as Lex Luthor? Novelty of those movies made money. tradermark Apr 27, 12:22

Shane Black started it with Lethal Weapon. {nm} slipping jimmy Apr 27, 12:25

good questions and observations. I tend to agree. but yeah, what does a decade from now look like at big box {nm} lobogotti Apr 27, 09:41

Certainly spectacle is mostly what's drawing audiences into the theatre and away from excellent tv content. lesana Apr 27, 09:45

Great post. In the last year, I've really enjoyed much of the streaming offerings. It takes something special to get me to the theater. RollingThunder Apr 27, 09:49

they're buying cause that's what we're making. make something else and they still might buy that too. Steve Jobs never cared what consumers slipping jimmy Apr 27, 09:49

Advertising is designed to make you feel like you want to have something you don't really need. They are great at it.. RollingThunder Apr 27, 09:53

studios have gotten great at knowing what people want & theres more than enough choice out there. 90% of all films released are originals {nm} Moviesnob Apr 27, 10:00

coming soon: DeathOnTheNile; DrDoolittle; Mowgli; TheNutcracker; RobinHood; Holmes/Watson; ...the ancient school of superhero franchises! {nm} RazorHawk Apr 27, 10:31

Coming soon to a theater near you? Or coming soon (enough) to Netflix, Amazon Prime, Redbox, etc? {nm} DTXbro Apr 27, 15:04

You would likely make more HSX money if you were aware of what moviestocks are listed and their scheduled release dates. {nm} RazorHawk Apr 29, 15:43

i don't know the actual comic book industry well enough to say, but the impression i get is that they keep developing new series constantly slipping jimmy Apr 27, 10:36

i think the most recent characters are from the early 90's in film, nothing later. tradermark Apr 27, 11:21

How many people buy or read or care about comic books? And, just as important, how many of those comic book readers can DTXbro Apr 27, 11:44

Not if we have anything to say about it {nm} JKRAS & JPEEL Apr 27, 10:53

and yet Paramount's first instinct when a movie that has a clear definite ending succeeds is to say "sequel franchise!" slipping jimmy Apr 27, 11:38

I see those superhero-films like themeparkrides. Kids and young adult events. When these kids grow up, they Will go see more adult themed... JMT-NL Apr 27, 11:17

somewhat related: Simpsons about to surpass Gunsmoke's 635 ep. record (in the 1950s and 60s, westerns were the comic book movies of the day) slipping jimmy Apr 27, 11:34

Sure were. And while delivery may differ both are succeeding on the big and little screen. {nm} tradermark Apr 27, 12:15





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