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Captain Marvel review update.. About what we expected. Some numbers to share: VictorY Mar 14, 12:15

As has been pointed out numerous times, RT and IMDB scores are unreliable due to trolling. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 12:24

They're pretty close though. That's one heck of a coincidence. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:25

Also. "Ultron" is at 7.4 on IMDB.. And "Ultron" and "Captian Marvel" Rotten Tomatoes Critic scores are pretty close also. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:28

It's not a coincidence that trolls have openly targeted the RT and IMDB scores of CMARV. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 12:29

I don't remember any trolling on "Ultron," unless I'm wrong.. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:30

There wasn't. Ultron's RT audience is 83%. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 12:37

I'm aware of that. But Rotten also changed how they do audience scores now also. I don't think its fair to CM the comparison. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:41

The whole suggestion of trolling has been blown out of proportion. At what point are too many negative reviews designated as 'trolling'? {nm} RollingThunder Mar 14, 12:38

538 has covered the IMDB trolling and bias many times Antibody Mar 14, 12:43

when they differ from actual move goer polls that have a scientific margin of error. Polls have to represent the population they are Moviesnob Mar 14, 12:43

Will take a look at the articles. Know it's been a hot topic for awhile, I just don't know a single person who has trolling as a hobby. {nm} RollingThunder Mar 14, 12:49

thats the key - there aren't a lot, they just get amplified on the internet {nm} Moviesnob Mar 14, 12:52

They have been openly trolling on social media, including this message board. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 12:52

Most trolls don't personally advertise to their friends and family that they intentionally are jerks on the Internet. Doesn't impress many. {nm} BSmurf Mar 14, 12:53

You don't read these boards? {nm} RogerMore Mar 14, 12:54

I do, just not every article that's posted, at least right away. {nm} RollingThunder Mar 14, 12:58

What I mean is, there've been many many people on these boards over the years who have trolling as hobby. {nm} RogerMore Mar 14, 13:13

Mixed WOM? Ir's already made over 550 globally. Seems strong to me. tatoufan Mar 14, 12:40

336 would be cool. But... I don't know. "Games" had solid 30+ percent drops for months. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:42

What? HGAME dropped 61%. HGAM2 dropped 53%. HGAM3 dropped 53%. HGAM4 dropped 49%. Antibody Mar 14, 12:47

Weeks after the 2nd weekend.. Not the 2nd weekend drop (which I agree will be higher) {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:48

I'ts on track for a billion dollas gross...maybe it only makes 900M. That's fantastic! tatoufan Mar 14, 13:58

336 after 4 weeks would be amazing for an, (until a month ago) relatively unknown Marvel asset likely to blow past 400 domestically... tatoufan Mar 14, 13:03

literally everything he's posted on Captain Marvel has been made up {nm} Moviesnob Mar 14, 12:47

The data is right there on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes.. Both audience and critic scores. I didn't make it up. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:50

its been explained to you. Those polls are not accurate as they don't reflect the population who watched the movies {nm} Moviesnob Mar 14, 12:51

So "Ultron" and "Marvel" have pretty close RT Critic scores (not accurate) pretty close audience ratings (Not accurate). That's your point? {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 12:53

We didn't say anything about RT critics score. CMARV's audience is -18% from critcs, while Ultron is +8%. Big difference. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 13:02

And "Marvel" also changed how they do audience scores on RT.. Hence why I'm looking more at the Critic scores put in with it.. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 13:05

What's the allowable deviation from critic consensus? Pepe_Nolan Mar 14, 13:35

no, I'll repeat:Those polls (whether critic or audience) aren't accurate reflections of the audience that saw the movie. {nm} Moviesnob Mar 14, 13:04

Fine. We just ignore all this data and just go off your preference. Which I'm sure has never been wrong. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 13:07

No, i'm using the polls that show me their margin of error Moviesnob Mar 14, 13:34

Whatever. Then why do we even have Rotten Tomatoes.. after what you said.. Both Audience and Critic ratings being useless and all. VictorY Mar 14, 13:38

The critic ranking isn't broken...the audience ranking is. The audience ranking once provided interesting info. Now, it doesn't. Critic Catzan Mar 14, 13:51

I never said the critic rating was useless. No one uses it as a representation of the movie going public. its a representation of what the Moviesnob Mar 14, 14:01

Take a look oon social media yourself. The vibe around CM is positive. {nm} tatoufan Mar 14, 14:16

This was pathetic weeks ago. Now I don't know what to call it. VictorY et al need to get a life. {nm} CSStrowbridge Mar 14, 13:05

Two words: Confirmation Bias Catzan Mar 14, 12:57

At this point, only BO numbers matter. CMARV's Mon-Tue-Wed is 22.3% of its Fri-Sat-Sun. Here's how that lines up against comparable movies RogerMore Mar 14, 13:41

Couldn't agree more. But "Hunger Games' was also released in March. I don't see March as a huge Summer month (where other Marvel films were) VictorY Mar 14, 13:45

Right how? A HGAME delist is higher than CMARV right now. {nm} Antibody Mar 14, 13:49

We shall see. That's the fun of the game.. right? We'll see how it plays out. {nm} VictorY Mar 14, 13:52

The play-out is predictable. Right-wing malcontents continue to lose culture war, becoming even more disaffected SenJohnBlutarsky Mar 14, 15:20

Yeah, DrStr looks like the most comparable in holds. Should be good for over $400m domestic, probably more than Cap3 and IM3 {nm} MattW Mar 14, 17:23

Great call. I could see that happening. For now, I'm locked on the Hunger Game trajectory. {nm} VictorY Mar 15, 09:06