HSX Forums: Movies Board






Take a look oon social media yourself. The vibe around CM is positive. {nm}

Posted by: tatoufan on Mar 14, 14:16 in response to VictorY's post The data is right there on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes.....

Captain Marvel review update.. About what we expected. Some numbers to share:   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:15

As has been pointed out numerous times, RT and IMDB scores are unreliable due to trolling. {nm}   Antibody on Mar 14, 12:24

They're pretty close though. That's one heck of a coincidence. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:25

Also. "Ultron" is at 7.4 on IMDB.. And "Ultron" and "Captian Marvel" Rotten Tomatoes Critic scores are pretty close also. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:28

It's not a coincidence that trolls have openly targeted the RT and IMDB scores of CMARV. {nm}   Antibody on Mar 14, 12:29

I don't remember any trolling on "Ultron," unless I'm wrong.. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:30

There wasn't. Ultron's RT audience is 83%. {nm}   Antibody on Mar 14, 12:37

I'm aware of that. But Rotten also changed how they do audience scores now also. I don't think its fair to CM the comparison. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:41

The whole suggestion of trolling has been blown out of proportion. At what point are too many negative reviews designated as 'trolling'? {nm}   RollingThunder on Mar 14, 12:38

538 has covered the IMDB trolling and bias many times   Antibody on Mar 14, 12:43

when they differ from actual move goer polls that have a scientific margin of error. Polls have to represent the population they are   Moviesnob on Mar 14, 12:43

Will take a look at the articles. Know it's been a hot topic for awhile, I just don't know a single person who has trolling as a hobby. {nm}   RollingThunder on Mar 14, 12:49

thats the key - there aren't a lot, they just get amplified on the internet {nm}   Moviesnob on Mar 14, 12:52

They have been openly trolling on social media, including this message board. {nm}   Antibody on Mar 14, 12:52

Most trolls don't personally advertise to their friends and family that they intentionally are jerks on the Internet. Doesn't impress many. {nm}   BSmurf on Mar 14, 12:53

You don't read these boards? {nm}   RogerMore on Mar 14, 12:54

I do, just not every article that's posted, at least right away. {nm}   RollingThunder on Mar 14, 12:58

What I mean is, there've been many many people on these boards over the years who have trolling as hobby. {nm}   RogerMore on Mar 14, 13:13

Mixed WOM? Ir's already made over 550 globally. Seems strong to me.    tatoufan on Mar 14, 12:40

336 would be cool. But... I don't know. "Games" had solid 30+ percent drops for months. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:42

What? HGAME dropped 61%. HGAM2 dropped 53%. HGAM3 dropped 53%. HGAM4 dropped 49%.   Antibody on Mar 14, 12:47

Weeks after the 2nd weekend.. Not the 2nd weekend drop (which I agree will be higher) {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:48

I'ts on track for a billion dollas gross...maybe it only makes 900M. That's fantastic!    tatoufan on Mar 14, 13:58

336 after 4 weeks would be amazing for an, (until a month ago) relatively unknown Marvel asset likely to blow past 400 domestically...   tatoufan on Mar 14, 13:03

literally everything he's posted on Captain Marvel has been made up {nm}   Moviesnob on Mar 14, 12:47

The data is right there on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes.. Both audience and critic scores. I didn't make it up. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:50

its been explained to you. Those polls are not accurate as they don't reflect the population who watched the movies {nm}   Moviesnob on Mar 14, 12:51

So "Ultron" and "Marvel" have pretty close RT Critic scores (not accurate) pretty close audience ratings (Not accurate). That's your point? {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 12:53

We didn't say anything about RT critics score. CMARV's audience is -18% from critcs, while Ultron is +8%. Big difference. {nm}   Antibody on Mar 14, 13:02

And "Marvel" also changed how they do audience scores on RT.. Hence why I'm looking more at the Critic scores put in with it.. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 13:05

What's the allowable deviation from critic consensus?   Pepe_Nolan on Mar 14, 13:35

no, I'll repeat:Those polls (whether critic or audience) aren't accurate reflections of the audience that saw the movie. {nm}   Moviesnob on Mar 14, 13:04

Fine. We just ignore all this data and just go off your preference. Which I'm sure has never been wrong. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 13:07

No, i'm using the polls that show me their margin of error {nm}   Moviesnob on Mar 14, 13:34

Whatever. Then why do we even have Rotten Tomatoes.. after what you said.. Both Audience and Critic ratings being useless and all.   VictorY on Mar 14, 13:38

The critic ranking isn't broken...the audience ranking is. The audience ranking once provided interesting info. Now, it doesn't. Critic    Catzan on Mar 14, 13:51

I never said the critic rating was useless. No one uses it as a representation of the movie going public. its a representation of what the    Moviesnob on Mar 14, 14:01

Take a look oon social media yourself. The vibe around CM is positive. {nm}   tatoufan on Mar 14, 14:16

This was pathetic weeks ago. Now I don't know what to call it. VictorY et al need to get a life. {nm}   CSStrowbridge on Mar 14, 13:05

Two words: Confirmation Bias   Catzan on Mar 14, 12:57

At this point, only BO numbers matter. CMARV's Mon-Tue-Wed is 22.3% of its Fri-Sat-Sun. Here's how that lines up against comparable movies   RogerMore on Mar 14, 13:41

Couldn't agree more. But "Hunger Games' was also released in March. I don't see March as a huge Summer month (where other Marvel films were)   VictorY on Mar 14, 13:45

Right how? A HGAME delist is higher than CMARV right now. {nm}   Antibody on Mar 14, 13:49

We shall see. That's the fun of the game.. right? We'll see how it plays out. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 14, 13:52

The play-out is predictable. Right-wing malcontents continue to lose culture war, becoming even more disaffected   SenJohnBlutarsky on Mar 14, 15:20

Yeah, DrStr looks like the most comparable in holds. Should be good for over $400m domestic, probably more than Cap3 and IM3 {nm}   MattW on Mar 14, 17:23

Great call. I could see that happening. For now, I'm locked on the Hunger Game trajectory. {nm}   VictorY on Mar 15, 09:06





Post a Reply

To post to the forums you must first login!

Robotech (RTECH) 100000 6.35 (0.00)         Killers of the Flower Moon (KOTFM) 100000 28.76 (+2.86)         Avengers: Endgame H$260 Call (AVNG4.CA) 20000 5.58 (+0.31)         Dr. Seuss' The Cat in the Hat (TCATH) 100000 72.15 (-0.20)         Playmobil: The Movie (PMOBL) 100000 20.76 (+0.88)         DC Super Pets (SUPET) 100000 45.27 (+0.30)         Avengers: Endgame (AVNG4) 42714 616.27 (+3.61)         Pokemon: Detective Pikachu (PIKAC) 50000 250.77 (-1.56)         Harbinger (HARBN) 100000 13.50 (0.00)         Playmobil: The Movie (PMOBL) 100000 20.76 (+0.88)         Breakthrough (BRKTH) 99673 39.57 (-0.41)         Legally Blonde 3 (BLON3) 100000 62.54 (+0.33)         Shazam! (SHAZM) 100000 128.07 (-0.92)         Fast & Furious 9 (FAST9) 100000 164.76 (+0.11)         Maleficent: Mistress of Evil (MALF2) 10 143.39 (+0.28)         RoboCop Returns (ROBO2) 100000 34.09 (-0.06)         The Trench (TRNCH) 100000 33.44 (+0.06)         World War Z 2 (WWZ2) 100000 18.43 (-0.15)         Free Guy (FREEG) 10000 68.94 (-3.09)         Hotel Transylvania 4 (HTRN4) 1 66.96 (+1.81)         The French Dispatch (TFRDS) 999 27.98 (-1.07)         Dumbo $100M Blockbuster Warrant (DUMBO.BW) 20000 5.46 (+0.46)         Those Who Wish Me Dead (TWWMD) 100000 15.27 (-0.11)         Wish Dragon (WDRGN) 100000 39.73 (+0.26)         Red Joan (RJOAN) 100000 0.68 (-0.01)         Rise (RISE1) 100000 20.00 (0.00)         Aquarela (AQULA) 100000 2.00 (0.00)         Avengers: Endgame - Opening Week (AVNG4.OW) 31821 286.01 (+2.28)         Men in Black: International (MIB4) 100000 148.55 (-1.71)         Free Guy (FREEG) 95542 68.94 (-3.09)         The Other Side of Heaven 2: Fire (OSOH2) 96787 3.34 (+1.53)         The Curse of La Llorona (CHLDN) 99999 54.98 (-2.22)         Rise (RISE1) 100000 20.00 (0.00)         The Other Side of Heaven 2: Fire (OSOH2) 100000 3.34 (+1.53)         The Other Side of Heaven 2: Fire (OSOH2) 96787 3.34 (+1.53)         Rise (RISE1) 100000 20.00 (0.00)         Methuselah (METHU) 100000 26.00 (-0.19)         Breakthrough (BRKTH) 99999 39.57 (-0.41)         Aquarela (AQULA) 1 2.00 (0.00)         Green Knight (GRNKN) 100000 20.38 (+1.42)         Spooky Jack (SPKYJ) 29398 66.49 (-0.75)         Once Upon a Time in Staten Islan (THNIT) 100000 10.49 (-0.13)         Monster Problems (MNSTP) 99998 20.40 (+2.39)         The Curse of La Llorona (CHLDN) 22222 54.98 (-2.22)         Pinocchio - Disney (PNOCC) 100000 88.86 (+0.71)         Uglydolls (UGLYD) 100000 38.81 (0.00)         Mouse Guard (MOUSG) 40916 39.50 (+2.37)         Killers of the Flower Moon (KOTFM) 100000 28.76 (+2.86)         Mouse Guard (MOUSG) 100000 39.50 (+2.37)         Just Cause (JCAUS) 100000 5.37 (-0.04)