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Launched this morning, PETITION #ISTANDWITHPHIL hits over 50,000 signatures... you go, Phil! Oleg Max Dec 19, 14:25

'Religion allows people to easily express hatred, because it rationalizes it.' RotoHockeyYTD2013 Dec 19, 14:43

when is expressing ones opinion about anything automatically equals hate? he did not say that he hates them, did he? {nm} Oleg Max Dec 19, 15:11

Historically, both Christians & Muslims have an Outstanding Track Record for Killing Gays for being Gay. RotoHockeyYTD2013 Dec 19, 15:37

you are talking in general terms that don't relate to what Phil actually said... {nm} Oleg Max Dec 19, 15:52

or in this case, did not even say... {nm} Oleg Max Dec 19, 15:52

His gay bashing is the definition of hate speech. {nm} Antibody Dec 19, 16:04

Drudge highlights two gay intellectuals that see the bigger picture... edzep - Port Monkey! Dec 20, 06:26

The GK Chesterton standard is not a bad one - and if you apply it to Phil, he's clearly bigoted. {nm} RogerMore Dec 20, 08:54

Is there a petition for standing with Martin Bashir? Have those same people signed it? {nm} LonePirate Dec 19, 15:23

i don't know who that is... {nm} Oleg Max Dec 19, 15:36

He was a newscaster for MSNBC who was fired a couple weeks back for speaking out against Sarah Palin's ignorant slavery comments {nm} LonePirate Dec 19, 15:40

I see. No one should be fired for speaking out, as long as they are not threatening to harm or kill anyone. Oleg Max Dec 19, 15:46

I would disagree. I think employers have the right to terminate employees if the don't represent the company to the companies standards {nm} Moviesnob Dec 19, 16:25

Hmm, really? So if you/your company had a standard that said no gays allowed to be employed by the co., & it turned Oleg Max Dec 19, 17:04

Your company would be breaking federal law with that standard. {nm} Antibody Dec 19, 17:06

So isn't A&E breaking a law then? I don't get it.... It's against the law to fire a gay but it's not against the law to fire Christian? {nm} Oleg Max Dec 19, 17:33

He's not being fired for being a Christian. {nm} Moviesnob Dec 19, 17:37

He is being fired from expressing his beliefs that are based on Bible = Christian book... {nm} Oleg Max Dec 19, 17:46

Honestly, you will probably not like me saying this, so apologies, but there's a difference between expressing his beliefs the way he did Moviesnob Dec 19, 17:52

Freedom of Speech/Religion is NOT equal to freedom from the consequences of that speech/those beliefs. Do not confuse the two. BSmurf Dec 19, 19:25

First of all, he's not being fired, he's being suspended. A&E won't be editing the episodes already filmed to remove him, etc. RogerMore Dec 19, 17:50

He also said some pretty appalling stuff about life being better with Jim Crow laws. LonePirate Dec 19, 18:01

well, that would be against the law, but I think the reverse would be more like if someone at the company said Christianity was evil and all Moviesnob Dec 19, 17:13

dont ask questions if you dont like the answers...phils religious convictions are well documented. suppose i were to be suspended from a jo horrorfanatic Dec 19, 20:39

No, that would be legal to fire you, because Star Wars fans aren't a protected class under anti-discrimination laws. RogerMore Dec 19, 20:55

well they should be. star wars IS a religion =) {nm} horrorfanatic Dec 19, 21:04

Sigh. He is free to continue to express his beliefs and say what he wants to say. No one is stopping him. Moviesnob Dec 19, 21:06

He didn't speak out against her comments, he said she specifically should have her mouth defecated and urinated in. He also forlorne Dec 20, 13:02