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Also, if you read even the beginning of the Kirby interview linked in the article, you can see that the man had a fairly large ego of his...

Posted by: Willroast on Feb 24, 10:01 in response to Willroast's post I walked away feeling like the fact that Lee (and his...

...It's no surprise there were some differences of opinion. After all, what work place doesn't have them? From my perspective, when I read the books that these guys worked on, I always saw both the writer and the artist as being co-everything. In fact, due to the way Marvel used to credit people on the first page, I also thought the inkers were in on the creative process. Which may be why I find the animosity so strange. To me, the credit was always given. Stan Lee just capitalized on it in a different way than the other guys. Heck, Dikto hated the attention it seemed so it is no wonder that he wasn't getting the attention that Lee was. Lee was the Flava Flav and Ditko was the Chuck D. It appears though that Chuck D handled the situation better than Ditko did.

NYV: Why is Stan Lee's legacy in question? Antibody Feb 23, 14:52

20 years ago this would have been a disgruntled fan letter, at best. Now, with public shaming all the rage... BSmurf Feb 23, 18:23

Crap - I had only read the first 1/3 and it looked like a blog rant. Kept reading - wow. Ignore most of above. {nm} BSmurf Feb 23, 18:26

Finished the article - still mostly a hit piece/rant, but the Kirby/Ditko stuff was pretty damning, although 30-40 years water under bridge {nm} BSmurf Feb 24, 07:09

It was a very interesting read. I'm not sure I'd call the Kirby/Ditko stuff "damning" but it does seem as though all involved should get... Willroast Feb 24, 07:15

I agree, MOST of the stuff in the article could be explained away as simply different POVs about the same subject. So what if Stan has a BSmurf Feb 24, 08:54

I walked away feeling like the fact that Lee (and his people) seemed to have no interest in contributing to the author's article... Willroast Feb 24, 09:34

Also, if you read even the beginning of the Kirby interview linked in the article, you can see that the man had a fairly large ego of his... Willroast Feb 24, 10:01

I'm not a comics guy, but for me, it's telling that Stan Lee had a burst of creativity in which all his best characters were created, and Roger More Feb 24, 13:34

Seems a pretty good sum up. The rest is petty grievances from fans, mostly about quantity vs (perceived lack of) quality {nm} BSmurf Feb 24, 14:37

But, like Flava Flav, Lee's "success" may not have been as much reliant on the product (stories/music) and more about the showmanship... VicMackeyYTD Feb 24, 16:57

I don't begrudge Lee a writing credit or claiming to be a co-creator. But sole creator seems too much for me. {nm} RogerMore Feb 24, 20:11

great read...grumpy old men :) ...sounds like it's going to be a he said/he said situation forever and we'll never get a straight story {nm} tealfan Feb 24, 08:03

Just wait for the inevitable movie. :) {nm} Antibody Feb 24, 09:18

Will Stan be attached due to his cameo? :) {nm} DTravel Feb 24, 12:46

I think Ken Burns needs to get on this {nm} tealfan Feb 25, 08:54

My serious 2 cents inside. DTravel Feb 24, 17:13





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