HSX Forum
TVStocks, MusicStocks and Life
Sadly, this kind of thing has been happening for a long time. The Bill would just allow them to be blunt with their denial of services. {nm}
Posted by: RollingThunder on Mar 28, 10:29
in response to DeanB's post That is not a correct comparison
Absolute garbage if one can discriminate against or fire for some supposed "sincerely held beliefs". Period.
{nm}
islander
Mar 28, 09:39
I don't agree with the firing aspect; however, are you saying businesses should never be able to refuse services to another?
RollingThunder
Mar 28, 09:51
As I understand it, that's not the controversial part of the bill. Of course religious orgs should be able to decline to perform same-sex
RogerMore
Mar 28, 10:11
I agree with your very well-written points. On that level, I do see how people would abuse the real intent of the Bill.
RollingThunder
Mar 28, 10:16
if they are a public business, the law is clear that they can't discriminate
{nm}
slipping jimmy
Mar 28, 11:07
Apologies everyone, busy at work! Trying to read thread now :)
{nm}
islander
Mar 28, 13:31
My issue is with the bill because its a bad bill that could lead to worse bills.
islander
Mar 28, 14:13
All sincerely held beliefs, or only the ones you disagree with?
shadowking
Mar 28, 10:06
Anti-discrimination laws protect against discrimination based on certain grounds, such as gender, race, sexuality and religion.
RogerMore
Mar 28, 10:19
To clarify - Content of good required is ok to descriminate upon, purpose/ultimate use of said good not ok to descriminate based on?
shadowking
Mar 28, 10:41
No, you can discriminate based on content too. "Sorry, we don't stock male-male cake toppers and I won't order them in" is discrimination.
RogerMore
Mar 28, 12:55
By "you can discriminate based on content", I mean "discriminating based on content is not OK either"
{nm}
RogerMore
Mar 28, 13:10
I assume the goal of the bill is to alter/ammend existing anti-discrimination law, so falling back on those laws as a criteria for
shadowking
Mar 28, 15:22
My understanding is that this bill wouldn't specifically alter any laws, but it includes a general provision that says something like...
RogerMore
Mar 28, 16:49
That is not a correct comparison
DeanB
Mar 28, 10:26
Sadly, this kind of thing has been happening for a long time. The Bill would just allow them to be blunt with their denial of services.
RollingThunder
Mar 28, 10:29
i dont think the issues in your first inside line come up much. If that did happen to me, I'd make them but might spit in their cupcakes ;)
islander
Mar 28, 14:15
At the risk of generalising it seems that a significant percentage of Americans still have a very deep puritanical streak that most of us...
hyperzeitgeist
Mar 28, 10:20
Thankfully, that percentage is declining annually.
{nm}
BSmurf
Mar 28, 10:50
Europe exorcised all that by shipping the puritanical religious types to North America.
DTravel
Mar 28, 12:53
Even setting aside agreement/disagreement with others' sexuality, there is a more fundamental problem with the bill.
DTravel
Mar 28, 13:06
Now, if we could only get all those religions and churches to start paying taxes...
{nm}
BSmurf
Mar 29, 14:25