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Don't you have to subtract the killings stopped by someone with a gun? Seriously, isn't what matters is intentional murder rate?

Posted by: sentinel423 on May 08, 13:02 in response to professor zovek's post another day, another school shooting courtesy of the...

Do you honestly care if you are killed by a gun or a brick? Even according to the UN, the U.S. is 90th in intentional homicide rate, and a large percentage of ours is gang members killing other gang members. It is just intellectually lazy to think restricting the rights of law abiding citizens will have an actual positive effect. Do concealed or open carry laws increase shootings?

Apparently U.K. is now looking to restrict knives. Criminalizing tools is not the answer.

another day, another school shooting courtesy of the NRA.. 1 dead 8 wounded at STEM school in Colorado professor zovek May 08, 07:57

And as always, the media raced to glorify the shooter(s) by printing their name, picture, and story as quickly as possible. {nm} PhoneHome May 08, 09:00

when it (extremely rarely) happens outside the US, they print their names and pictures too. the reason it remains extremely rare is b/c guns {nm} professor zovek May 08, 09:36

1st, not the point. US, Zimbabwe, wherever, media needs to stop glorifying it. 2nd, you're wrong. 1,423 mass shootings outside US in 15 yrs. PhoneHome May 08, 10:35

the fact is you're wrong. professor zovek May 08, 11:20

Wrong again! You should read prior to posting. The Lankford data your CNN article cites self-admits that it strongly under-counts foreign PhoneHome May 08, 11:47

But again off point. The media has the right to report anything they want. But profit motive drives their decisions, not safety, morals, or PhoneHome May 08, 12:15

Totally on board with this {nm} sentinel423 May 08, 13:02

Blaming an inanimate object for this tragedy is just idiotic {nm} IM Deplorable May 08, 10:04

Don't you have to subtract the killings stopped by someone with a gun? Seriously, isn't what matters is intentional murder rate? sentinel423 May 08, 13:02

does stopping one shooter bring any of the already dead victims back to life? {nm} professor zovek May 08, 13:35

Did you address murder rate worldwide? And no, stopping a shooter today does not resurrect dead people. Does that make stopping a shooter forlorne May 09, 07:28

it's not a zero sum game. you don't get all the dead ones back just because another shooting might be stopped. there will still be more dead professor zovek May 09, 09:14

Math is hard. If more deaths are prevented by stopping shooters than deaths caused by shooters, that is a net forlorne May 14, 05:15





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