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Here's the thing...in a phone call, Trump attempted to strong arm the Ukraine into a false investigation of his leading opponent in the next

Posted by: Catzan on Sep 25, 17:30 in response to Nobody's post Where in the conversation does it mention anything for...

election. It is a false investigation because the Hunter Biden thing has already been looked in to and found to be a dead end. just like Benghazi...just like Clinton's emails...just like every other conspiracy that right wingnuts toss out there. Nothing there. This isn't Trump being theatrical and exclaiming at a rally, "Hey Russia, find those Clinton emails" which in of itself is the same thing but it was forgiven of a clown.  The issue Donald Trump has is that he is not versed in how our government works. He runs roughshod over business laws and throws money at situations...settles before being convicted. That doesn't work in American government. He is ill-equiped to be the third arm of our government because he thinks he is a CEO...an owner...a king.  You can tell this by all of his actions. He thinks he is above the law because someone told him a sitting president can't be indicted of a crime. Obama stretched his powers due to Republican obstruction but Trump has done much much worse. He is created the need for so many new laws that were "understandings" before.

White House releases (incomplete) readout of POTUS call with Zelensky, purportedly to exonerate but showing ask for "favor" before aid salt water redneck Sep 25, 08:42

Directly after Z asked to buy more Javelins, Trump "I would like to ask you to do us a favor.." {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 08:45

Zelensky also takes pains to point out that he stayed at a Trump property on his last US visit {nm} salt water redneck Sep 25, 08:57

What is the crime? {nm} Nobody Sep 25, 10:01

abusing the powers of the office, misuisng the office for personal gain, and previously obstruction of justice... {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 10:31

Where in the conversation does it mention anything for personal gain? And Mueller clearly stated no obstruction {nm} Nobody Sep 25, 10:57

Investigating an election rival=personal gain. Wrong, Mueller clearly said Trump could not be cleared of no obstruction. {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 11:40

Investigation of past corruption and abuse of power by Biden. Biden's candidacy is irrelevant {nm} Nobody Sep 25, 11:43

There's been absolutely no evidence found by reputable press. {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 11:47

Maybe because Biden stopped (obstructed) the investigation. That's why Trump wants it investigated now {nm} Nobody Sep 25, 12:15

Here's what Mueller said in his testimony: Nobody Sep 25, 11:50

Just because Trump was incompetent, doesn't mean he didn't try. Mueller wasn't answering a question about all of Trump's obstructions. Antibody Sep 25, 11:58

From the Mueller report: Nobody Sep 25, 12:13

Wrong. It's not Mueller's decision, but Congress' to determine a prosecutorial decision about criminal conduct. {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 12:17

Congress is not a law enforcement body. That falls to the DOJ. The DOJ investigated and found no crimes. {nm} Nobody Sep 25, 12:23

Trump apppointee Barr is not going to charge a sitting President. Doesn't mean crimes weren't committed. {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 12:32

According to the Constitution, as far as the President is concerned Congres IS a law enforcement agency. Namely a COURT. {nm} DTravel Sep 25, 17:37

Here's the thing...in a phone call, Trump attempted to strong arm the Ukraine into a false investigation of his leading opponent in the next Catzan Sep 25, 17:30

The President...shall be removed from Office on Impeachment for, and Conviction of, Treason, Bribery, or other high Crimes and Misdemeanors. islndr Sep 25, 10:33

illegally soliciting foreign election assistance, just for starters {nm} salt water redneck Sep 25, 10:43

Illegally? This conversation doesn't mention election assistance, only corruption and crimes by Biden... Nobody Sep 25, 10:47

Biden is on camera admitting to forcing Ukraine to fire the prosecutor looking into his coke-head son's $50K per month paycheck for an Nobody Sep 25, 11:21

Imagine if Trump pressured Ukraine to fire a prosecutor who was investigating a company that employed Donald Trump Jr. as a board member... Nobody Sep 25, 11:40

Emoluments Clause of the Consitution prohibits him from accepting presents of any kind from foreign state. {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 12:14

The Trump Organization has established a voluntary procedure by which it identifies and donates to the U.S. Treasury profits from Nobody Sep 25, 12:21

more specifically, a federal campaign law violation (Biden is an announced 2020 opponent). salt water redneck Sep 25, 12:34

That's a stretch. Whether or not Biden is a current candidate is irrelevant. Trump can be investigated but not Biden? {nm} Nobody Sep 25, 12:53

That is a pure and simple deflection. This situation has already been investigated. Biden should call for an investigation into Trump Catzan Sep 25, 17:34

also not at all a "stretch" when POTUS is already Individual 1, an unindicted co-conspirator for the same campaign finance violation salt water redneck Sep 25, 18:34

The only good thing I can take from this thread is that Nobody is going to vote for Trump. {nm} Grunt Sep 25, 11:13

I don't care about Trump, he's an incompetent idiot. I will vote for anyone who fights the insane Progressives {nm} Nobody Sep 25, 11:18

So Grunt's not wrong, you're still voting for Trump. Or are you voting Green or Libertarian? {nm} Antibody Sep 25, 11:45

If Trump survives the sham impeachment and is the Repub candidate, then I will unfortunately have to vote for him. If it Nobody Sep 25, 11:53

hope the cops catch the guy holding a gun to your head! {nm} salt water redneck Sep 25, 11:58

"Have to vote for him"? Male bovine digestive end product DTravel Sep 25, 12:47





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