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Usually people bring up "The Hidden Fortress" and Flash Gordon serials when assessing the originality of "Star Wars." So. . .

Posted by: second gary (a.k.a 80181597) on Jan 02, 07:33 in response to hyperzeitgeist's post The thing GWTW & STAR4 have in common is that they...

... if STAR7 is an episode in a serial, where the first film had clear precedents, it seems a litle unfair to me to say one is original and the other is derivative.  Somewhere amidst GLUCA's comments over the last week he made a criticism of STAR7 for returning to a desert planet for its setting, vaunting that he had always sought to do something new.  If this is the impulse which led him to set the ludicrous light-saber battle in "Revenge of the Sith" in a landscape of lava flows, then it's nothing to be proud of.  

A little bit of perspective amidst all the 'Star Wars' hysteria... hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 02:22

I don't see the point. It's been out for a couple of weeks, vs. many years for the others. If those stats are meant to take some shine off edzep - Port Monkey! Jan 02, 06:29

The inflation argument is ignorant. No one adjusts apples revenue for inflation to compare to 1950s corps, and why not judge all variables Fitch3k Jan 02, 06:41

You are the one displaying your ignorance if you believe that inflation isn't relevant... {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 07:04

The point is that people are still watching 'Gone With The Wind'. Do you think that will be true of STAR7 in 75 years? {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 07:06

They're still watching STAR4 42 years later, so probably :) {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Jan 02, 07:08

er... 38 years. {nm} Chateau_du_Mal_Voisin Jan 02, 07:09

The thing GWTW & STAR4 have in common is that they are both genuine cultural phenomena. STAR7: Over-hyped retread. {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 07:12

Usually people bring up "The Hidden Fortress" and Flash Gordon serials when assessing the originality of "Star Wars." So. . . second gary Jan 02, 07:33

Who cares? BO success is not determined by movie quality. People wanted Star Wars content, they got it. {nm} slappydavid Jan 02, 07:42

Tell me then what does it matter to Disney what Gone With the Wind was able to make over 70 years? {nm} Fitch3k Jan 02, 07:07

Your argument contains a logical fallacy. {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 07:13

It's also ignorant in not admitting the fundamental changes in our culture that make this statistic interesting but not worth much. goodvibe61 Jan 02, 11:25

Relevant quote from the article inside (emphasis added). The Force-Ghost of DTravel Jan 02, 09:48

We get it, you hate SW, move on. The next decade is going to really suck for you. {nm} skunkrunner Jan 02, 09:57

+1. {nm} Captain Obvious Jan 02, 10:17

Wow! A +1 from the troll...you're really in exalted company. {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 10:23

Please Stop TROLLING. {nm} Captain Obvious Jan 02, 10:37

I see what you did there...very clever /s {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 12:07

Sorry to disappoint you but 'Star Wars' doesn't exist in my universe so it's hardly likely to impact on my decade... {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 10:20

Come back and tell me how much fun you're having after you've been force-fed another half dozen helpings :p {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 10:22

What universe is that? Star Wars is the undisputed Alpha and Omega of modern American cinema. {nm} skunkrunner Jan 02, 10:31

I think you need to get out more :D {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 12:09

Sorry to hear that. If you dont appreciate Star Wars it could be said you really dont appreciate films.nm vindog Jan 02, 10:35

+1. {nm} Captain Obvious Jan 02, 10:41

Yes my point being films like Star Wars and Indiana Jones are the heart of the business. vindog Jan 02, 11:37

"Business" being the operative word. {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 12:01

Of course we all have to make a living vindog Jan 02, 14:09

I've probably appreciated more films than you've had hot dinners. {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 12:20

if it doesn't exist in your universe, then why are you posting about it? {nm} JDolphin Jan 02, 11:41

Because this is (supposedly) a movie forum on a website devoted to movies that currently seems obsessed with one film? {nm} hyperzeitgeist Jan 02, 12:03

It's as much a box office site as a movie site, and so yes, this forum is obsessed with the movie having the largest box office impact now. {nm} goodvibe61 Jan 02, 12:55

I can appreciate that but as others have pointed out there are other investments that offer a far better ROI, yet they barely get a look in. {nm} hyper_2016YTD Jan 02, 12:59

Just like the real stock market. :D {nm} The Force-Ghost of DTravel Jan 02, 18:33

Then why don't you point those out instead of trying to post misplaced and inaccurate "perspective" {nm} JDolphin Jan 02, 20:37





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